Anarchy vs. The State

christa lynn · Post by **christa lynn** » 9/21/2002, 9:41 pm

Alright, I'm in debate club and I'm thinking about doing an Anarchy vs. The State (ie organized government) debate. So all you anarchists (and anti-anarchists) give me point by point why your side is better.

Joey · Post by **Joey** » 9/21/2002, 11:43 pm

Anarchy!!!!!! :evil:

the android · Post by **the android** » 9/22/2002, 7:20 am

The thing about anarchy is that there're too many "punk rawk" kids who say they're anarchists simply because they think it comes with the deal. They may not even necessarily know what the fuck it really means.

Axtech · Post by **Axtech** » 9/22/2002, 7:53 am

Good point. It's kind of sad how these "punk rawkerz" take on the rebellious persona just because they think it's rebellious...

lora · Post by **lora** » 9/22/2002, 8:38 am

I've really been getting interested in this stuff lately. I love spewing arguments with my parents and friends.

Xavier870 · Post by **Xavier870** » 9/22/2002, 8:55 am

I love making arguments with my parents. :evil:

superrgirll · Post by **superrgirll** » 9/22/2002, 9:21 am

Ahree wrote:The thing about anarchy is that there're too many "punk rawk" kids who say they're anarchists simply because they think it comes with the deal. They may not even necessarily know what the fuck it really means.

You just descirbed this guy i know perfectly. He's such a loser. He's a dick as well. I hate him.

the android · Post by **the android** » 9/22/2002, 10:12 am

Xavier870 · Post by **Xavier870** » 9/22/2002, 10:40 am

One-Eye · Post by **One-Eye** » 9/22/2002, 1:23 pm

Sure, the government's fucked up. But anarchy would never work. We'd all be dead in a matter of days.

Joey · Post by **Joey** » 9/22/2002, 1:26 pm

The government is gonna eventually kill us all anyway .. at least with Anarchy we can have some fun before we die

starvingeyes · Post by **starvingeyes** » 9/22/2002, 1:33 pm

anarchy.

the axiom of self ownership entitles us to certain natural rights. the most significant of these is the right not to have coercive force used against us.

the state, by it's very existence, violates this fundamental right.

One-Eye · Post by **One-Eye** » 9/22/2002, 1:47 pm

Sample conversation with my anarchist friend:

Me: "So... what happens if somebody kills your brother? There'd be nobody to arbiter justice."

Her: "So? You just buy a gun and kill him."

"And this would somehow make it all okay?"

"Well, there wouldn't be any government to fuck it up, so... yeah."

"Great, then everybody'd be buying guns and shooting each other everytime somebody pissed them off, just because they can."

"No, because people aren't like that. We'd figure out a way to work it all out."

"We already have. It's called government."

Post by **faninor** » 9/22/2002, 1:54 pm

Aerindipity wrote:". . . We'd figure out a way to work it all out."

"We already have. It's called government."

sandsleeper · Post by **sandsleeper** » 9/22/2002, 2:05 pm

the state. ever read conrad's 'heart of darkness?' well it sucked, i wouldn't reccomend it. but it was a perfect example of what happens when there is no state controlling things. some radical asshole takes charge and does crazy things and everyone else are his sheep. its a similar scenario in 'Lord of the Flies.' with no adults to be there government, the kids go do crazy shit and it all goes to hell.

and yeah the state's not perfect. but i don't know any people that are either, so why should something created by people for people be any different?

happening fish · Post by **happening fish** » 9/22/2002, 3:17 pm

Shit! We have to read Heart Of Darkness this year! And we read Lord Of The Flies last year and our essay on it was called Heart Of Darkness! So shit! It IS like Lord Of The Flies!!!1 *cries*

sandsleeper · Post by **sandsleeper** » 9/22/2002, 3:36 pm

yeah, i actually liked lord of the flies, but i thought heart of darkness is HORRIBLE. i mean there are some good ideas but i just couldnt digest it, i'm actually in the process of writing an essay on it now, blah. :freak:

Corey · Post by **Corey** » 9/22/2002, 8:54 pm

Big business already controls much of your lifestyle as it is. imagine what they could do without regulation....

joe_canadian · Post by **joe_canadian** » 9/23/2002, 7:13 am

IIIIIIIIIIIIIII've got the coooooonch!!! [/shrill british accent]

Bandalero · Post by **Bandalero** » 9/23/2002, 12:38 pm

heart of darkness sucks the nut, our teacher in high school didn't even want to read that damn book, so we watched apocolipse now instead. good olde La Pryor high school! :mrgreen:

"La pryor La pryor we love you we stand by you faithfull and true, we know you can win with spirit and vin, to cary our colors through, we love every bulldog on the team we stand by you till the end, we'll beat everyone so lets have some fun la pryor we love you." :oops:

jesus crist i can't belive that i still have that damn school song memorized. that's what happens when you don't have a school band and the football team has to lead everyone to sing our school song. :neutral:

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