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Anarchy or The State?

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Anarchy vs. The State

Postby christa lynn » 9/21/2002, 9:41 pm

Alright, I'm in debate club and I'm thinking about doing an Anarchy vs. The State (ie organized government) debate. So all you anarchists (and anti-anarchists) give me point by point why your side is better.
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Postby One-Eye » 9/22/2002, 1:23 pm

Sure, the government's fucked up. But anarchy would never work. We'd all be dead in a matter of days.
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Postby Joey » 9/22/2002, 1:26 pm

The government is gonna eventually kill us all anyway .. at least with Anarchy we can have some fun before we die :D
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Postby starvingeyes » 9/22/2002, 1:33 pm

anarchy.

the axiom of self ownership entitles us to certain natural rights. the most significant of these is the right not to have coercive force used against us.

the state, by it's very existence, violates this fundamental right.
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Postby One-Eye » 9/22/2002, 1:47 pm

Sample conversation with my anarchist friend:

Me: "So... what happens if somebody kills your brother? There'd be nobody to arbiter justice."

Her: "So? You just buy a gun and kill him."

"And this would somehow make it all okay?"

"Well, there wouldn't be any government to fuck it up, so... yeah."

"Great, then everybody'd be buying guns and shooting each other everytime somebody pissed them off, just because they can."

"No, because people aren't like that. We'd figure out a way to work it all out."

"We already have. It's called government."
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Postby faninor » 9/22/2002, 1:54 pm

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Postby sandsleeper » 9/22/2002, 2:05 pm

the state. ever read conrad's 'heart of darkness?' well it sucked, i wouldn't reccomend it. but it was a perfect example of what happens when there is no state controlling things. some radical asshole takes charge and does crazy things and everyone else are his sheep. its a similar scenario in 'Lord of the Flies.' with no adults to be there government, the kids go do crazy shit and it all goes to hell.

and yeah the state's not perfect. but i don't know any people that are either, so why should something created by people for people be any different?
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Postby sandsleeper » 9/22/2002, 3:36 pm

yeah, i actually liked lord of the flies, but i thought heart of darkness is HORRIBLE. i mean there are some good ideas but i just couldnt digest it, i'm actually in the process of writing an essay on it now, blah. :freak:
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Postby Corey » 9/22/2002, 8:54 pm

Big business already controls much of your lifestyle as it is. imagine what they could do without regulation....
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Postby joe_canadian » 9/23/2002, 7:13 am

IIIIIIIIIIIIIII've got the coooooonch!!! [/shrill british accent]
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Postby Bandalero » 9/23/2002, 12:38 pm

heart of darkness sucks the nut, our teacher in high school didn't even want to read that damn book, so we watched apocolipse now instead. good olde La Pryor high school! :mrgreen:

"La pryor La pryor we love you we stand by you faithfull and true, we know you can win with spirit and vin, to cary our colors through, we love every bulldog on the team we stand by you till the end, we'll beat everyone so lets have some fun la pryor we love you." :oops:

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