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Beason52 wrote:I am saying that it was better than Gravity. It was still a step in the right direction from SOT and Made of Steel.

A/L/S, Picture, WTS...Al Genina, Boy. It may have not been a great album but it was a lot better than Gravity. Half the songs on Gravity I could easily see Nickelback doing.

Glad to see another one of the few who think Healthy was better. I felt like it had more effort, and musically took a few more chances and had more to appreciate. It wasn't an awesome album, but it was definitely a step in the right direction.
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this thread is depressing. i'll just say i'm glad that the band members are happy with the music they're putting out at the moment.. i'm glad i am happy with the music they are putting out at the moment.. it's a pity most of you guys don't but oh well :)
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Naveed: 7.5/10
Clumsy: 8.5/10
Happiness: 9/10
SM: 10/10
Gravity: 10/10
HIPT: 6/10
BB: 7.5/10
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Naveed: 9/10
Clumsy: 9.5/10
Happiness: 10/10
SM: 10/10
Gravity: 6/10
HIPT: 5/10
BB: 7.5/10
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If you get technical with it, Gravity had most traits from the first four.

Emotion: Yeah
Falsetto: Not as much but yeah
Guitar: meh
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naveed- 9
clumsy- 7
happiness- 10
spiritual machines- 10
gravity- 8
hipt- 7
burnburn- 9
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Naveed: 8.0/10
Clumsy: 9.0/10
Happiness: 9.5/10
Spiritual: 10/10
Gravity: 6.5/10
Healthy: 5.5/10
Burn: 4.5/10 (its still early tho)
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Post by NCdudeN2K4 »

Sadly, I think this is either their worst, or next to worst album. Just nothing that grabs my ear consistently. Nothing too horrible, but nothing great song wise....


Spiritual Machines 9/10
Clumsy 9/10
Healthy in Paranoid Times 8/10
Happiness 8/10
Naveed 6/10
Gravity 5/10
Burn Burn 5/10 (at this point)
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JSMc247 wrote:Naveed: 8.0/10
Clumsy: 9.0/10
Happiness: 9.5/10
Spiritual: 10/10
Gravity: 6.5/10
Healthy: 5.5/10
Burn: 4.5/10 (its still early tho)


Ouch! Burn Burn gets lower than healthy? Maybe Gravity but wow harsh. what don't you like?
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M2 wrote:If you get technical with it, Gravity had most traits from the first four.

Emotion: Yeah
Falsetto: Not as much but yeah
Guitar: meh

There are some bads and goods from both HIPT and Gravity, but for me the bads outweigh the goods in HIPT.

Gravity:

Good - Raine's voice still emotive/aggressive, natural song flow/structure, brave new direction, some good guitar, good hooks, All For You
Bad - Mainstream ballady songs, some not-so-good guitar, too short, less paranoid falsetto voice

HIPT:

Good - A bit of falsetto back in A/L/S, and...?

Bad - Forced/contrived song structure, no hooks, bad choruses, Raine's voice lacking, lacklustre guitar, some really empty songs (Walking in Circles?!?)

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Actually in the solo on Wipe That Smile, Raine reached the highest note since The Wonderful Future! I was so shocked I jumped.
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M2 wrote:Actually in the solo on Wipe That Smile, Raine reached the highest note since The Wonderful Future! I was so shocked I jumped.

Yeah that was pretty good actually, but to me the rest of the song is so horrible that it makes that part all the less impressive :(
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M2 wrote:
JSMc247 wrote:Naveed: 8.0/10
Clumsy: 9.0/10
Happiness: 9.5/10
Spiritual: 10/10
Gravity: 6.5/10
Healthy: 5.5/10
Burn: 4.5/10 (its still early tho)


Ouch! Burn Burn gets lower than healthy? Maybe Gravity but wow harsh. what don't you like?


I don't like the fact that the only song that i find myself NEEDING to hear is -- "escape artist". I like "paper moon" as well.

On "healthy" i really enjoyed 'apology' and 'al genina'. i also like 'a/l/s' and 'boy'.

Theres more shit on "healthy" that i just have to skip over because its such commercialized crap i can't stand it. Like i've said -- its still early yet for 'burn burn'.
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Geez. You guys analyze music way too much.

Oh well. Some people will be negative no matter what. Instead of arguing, I'm going to go and enjoy my new favourite record, chock full of "top 40 generic drivel". :)
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On first two listens, during which I wasn't really able to focus just on the album, I'm not very impressed by a lot of the songs on this album. My copy should arrive tomorrow so I'll give it another listen over the weekend or something.
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M2 wrote:If you get technical with it, Gravity had most traits from the first four.

Emotion: Yeah
Falsetto: Not as much but yeah
Guitar: meh

But then there's:

Drums: No
Bass: No
Lyrics that actually make you think: No

I actually somewhat like Gravity, but to give it a 10/10 with Spiritual Machines... No thanks.
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Rural Juror wrote:Geez. You guys analyze music way too much.


oh so true.. music is to be enjoyed. if you're not enjoying it, don't listen to it :)
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senseofurgency wrote:
Rural Juror wrote:Geez. You guys analyze music way too much.


oh so true.. music is to be enjoyed. if you're not enjoying it, don't listen to it :)

That's true, to a sense, but when a band named "Our Lady Peace" sounds nothing today like a band named "Our Lady Peace" did from 1994–2001, usually you end up with people like us who can't shut up about it. :nod:
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what songs did mike have writing credits in off of gravity?

bring back the sun, story of a girl, and all for you, right?
and if i don't make it know that i've loved you all along.

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ivewaited wrote:what songs did mike have writing credits in off of gravity?

bring back the sun, story of a girl, and all for you, right?

Yeah, along with rumors that he played (but didn't write) on Innocent.
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