Bush Wins

Random Name · Post by **Random Name** » 11/3/2004, 3:21 pm

United North America is a load of crap. That site is essentially promoting the United States invading Canada and claiming it as their own. They are just trying to do it with propaganda insted of war.

and Bush really doesn't have a good track record. I think Campbell has the stats but it seemed like every other major country in the world wanted Kerry to get elected.

happening fish · Post by **happening fish** » 11/3/2004, 3:30 pm

i went to the BBC site and read some other world leaders' asskissy little responses. The only one I liked was Kenya's :lol:

Corey · Post by **Corey** » 11/3/2004, 3:51 pm

Well, you clearly don't understand the goal of a United North America.

I suppose the EU was the result of a series of invasions. :roll:

happening fish · Post by **happening fish** » 11/3/2004, 3:56 pm

I'm sorry, but I'd rather not lose any more autonomy to your country.

closeyoureyes · Post by **closeyoureyes** » 11/3/2004, 4:02 pm

Corey · Post by **Corey** » 11/3/2004, 4:03 pm

Nothing wrong with that. But you're also not the one that showed a desire to have an affect on the American election.

Random Name · Post by **Random Name** » 11/3/2004, 4:05 pm

I was just saying that I disagree with it. Thats an opinion. I wasn't in anyway saying that I wanted to be American or join America. I was was stating the fact that other people in other countries have outside opinions that would have probably have changed the election. I think Campbell said that Canada was 80% pro-Kerry. That has nothing to do with Canada becoming America Jr.

Corey · Post by **Corey** » 11/3/2004, 4:10 pm

You're already America Jr. In a United North America, you'd be equal... but that's besides the point. Unless you are a part of this country, your opinion on who should be president is meaningless. Simple as that. Let's put it this way, do you want Americans voting for your next Prime Minister?

closeyoureyes · Post by **closeyoureyes** » 11/3/2004, 4:11 pm

Canada, in NO WAY, is America Jr. :freak:

joe_canadian · Post by **joe_canadian** » 11/3/2004, 4:11 pm

Um. I don't intend to flame or harass anyone here, but I am struggling, in all sincerity, to understand what Jim, Cass, and Korzic are saying.

If someone doesn't support Bush, why should they now that he has won the presidency? If an individual in a democracy has opinions and beliefs and opinions contrary to those of another individual, should they abandon them simply because the other becomes president?

I sincerely want an explanation. I can't fathom why you believe US citizens should support a president who doesn't stand for what they believe in. Even when the president was elected by a majority. My thinking is: the president, as head of a democracy, is a representative, not a leader. If citizens do not feel represented by him, and are free people, they should be able, even encouraged, to dissent.

What do you think?

Corey · Post by **Corey** » 11/3/2004, 4:16 pm

I agree. They don't have to support him, but I would encourage that they work with him.

closeyoureyes · Post by **closeyoureyes** » 11/3/2004, 4:17 pm

If America is truly the democracy its supposed to be, you dont have to respect a leader if you dont want to. Choice is yours.

Axtech · Post by **Axtech** » 11/3/2004, 4:28 pm

Hillary '08.

joe_canadian · Post by **joe_canadian** » 11/3/2004, 4:29 pm

Corey wrote:You're already America Jr.

Again, I am wording my response as to explicitly avoid insulting you:

As a Canadian, I find that statement highly offensive.

Also, as a Canadian, I know that you are wrong.

This is not my opinion, it is a fact and it is not up for debate: you are wrong. I am sure you believe yourself to be right in your assertation, and that you believe similarities in economy and other material measures supports you. But you are wrong. I repeat, this is not my opinion. I am explaining a fact to you. If it were otherwise, you, as an American, would still be unable to make that assertation. Only a Canadian can rightly say such things about Canada.

I understand that what you said was in response to Sarah's comment about your country, but you and I both know that she spoke in jest, and she was not insulting anyone. She voiced an opinion, harmlessly and mostly jokingly. Your comment was uncalled for.

I ask that you not disrespect my country and culture again.

laurel · Post by **laurel** » 11/3/2004, 4:38 pm

i'm canadian, first off. and canada is very much not america jr, but i'm not going to get into that right now.

what i want to comment on is canada having a say in the election. i don't think it's a half bad idea, as long as it were worked out correctly and what not. it'll never happen, but it's nice to think of.

the thing is, whoever's elected in the states impacts canada. our economy is going downhill right now because of bush not letting our beef across the borders. there are so many people in canada whose lives are greatly impacted because of who the president of the states is.

in short, if the president of the states is going to try and mess with canada and it's economy, or anything else, like bush has, there should be some way for canadians to impact the outcome.

one other thing. i live in saskatchewan. there's a town here that's letting americans come in, and get flu vaccines because of the shortage in the states. to put it in a crude way...we're letting in 'beef' from the states. why won't they accept ours??

Henrietta · Post by **Henrietta** » 11/3/2004, 4:54 pm

I already stated my beliefs on why I think an American should support the president. I think you should disagree with him, vote, and do everything you can to change things. But if hatred, like this, runs rampant for too long, I'm afraid of what it will do to morale over the entire country.

what i want to comment on is canada having a say in the election. i don't think it's a half bad idea, as long as it were worked out correctly and what not. it'll never happen, but it's nice to think of.

Either you're part of America or you're not. You don't get a say unless you're in it. That's ridiculious. Not to mention, Bush is trying to keep OUR cattle industry from going under. I'm sorry to say, but America's first responsibility is Americans. We'd love to buy your beef, but we have our own. Don't try to lecture me on this, because I'm a rancher and I know how poor our own ranching industry is.

Axtech · Post by **Axtech** » 11/3/2004, 5:17 pm

Canada having a say in an American election is rediculous.

Imagine if the US had ANY say in the next Canadian election - we'd all go fucking berserk.

closeyoureyes · Post by **closeyoureyes** » 11/3/2004, 5:25 pm

Yeah I agree. We all vote in the country that we live in, and thats it.

As for America being Canada Jr, if you actually think that[truly], you're stupid. Plain and Simple. And moreso: Calling Canada America Jr is offensive to all the canadians on this board. :wtf:

Corey · Post by **Corey** » 11/3/2004, 5:33 pm

Why is it offensive? You are a democracy, have similar culture, and your population is smaller. Not to mention you are located in America. Point me towards the offensive part.

closeyoureyes · Post by **closeyoureyes** » 11/3/2004, 5:35 pm

*Similar Culture*
:lol:

I'm not touching this one, I think the answer to your question lies in a much more... calm person.