Sol Fox and Naveed

hpdfk · Post by **hpdfk** » 4/9/2004, 2:29 pm

Been watching the Molson Park show. :drool:

So unbelievable.

When they introduce Naveed, Raines asks "You guys know who naveed is? He's the guy up there." And then he points to the backdrop that has Sol Fox on it.

:Johnathan:

This is confusing

trentm32 · Post by **trentm32** » 4/9/2004, 2:31 pm

maybe he thinks of Sol as a bearer of good fortune?

hpdfk · Post by **hpdfk** » 4/9/2004, 2:51 pm

Then when he introduces starseed he says "this song is all about flying"

Long Jonny · Post by **Long Jonny** » 4/9/2004, 2:53 pm

it's just raine being the crazy guy he is. that is all.

MaloDuende · Post by **MaloDuende** » 4/9/2004, 3:06 pm

I've been wondering why they didn't have Sol on the cover of Gravity. Is it just so they could have the shot of the band, or was he unavailable? I don't know if this is common knowledge or not. I searched but couldn't find anything about it.

Henrietta · Post by **Henrietta** » 4/9/2004, 3:08 pm

Am I stupid cause I don't know who Sol is?

superrgirll · Post by **superrgirll** » 4/9/2004, 3:08 pm

the old man.

Henrietta · Post by **Henrietta** » 4/9/2004, 3:08 pm

Oh.......

Thanks

hpdfk · Post by **hpdfk** » 4/9/2004, 3:09 pm

I read an interview, and they just tried to avoid the subject. Sol is NOT dead, they just didn't want to use him this time around, but didn't really say why.

And TECHNICALLY sol's not on the cover of SM (though he is in the pamphlet)

Long Jonny · Post by **Long Jonny** » 4/9/2004, 3:11 pm

sol's on the cover of sm... look closely at the gernie (sp?)

and the whole reason he wasn't on gravity is because they wanted to redefine themseleves as a new band. they said that by putting themselves on the cover, they were getting back to the basics of rock and roll. just pure rock and roll.

Henrietta · Post by **Henrietta** » 4/9/2004, 3:13 pm

Makes sense.

hpdfk · Post by **hpdfk** » 4/9/2004, 3:14 pm

?????

could you give me a direction hint? (upper right corner? towards the left?)

Long Jonny · Post by **Long Jonny** » 4/9/2004, 3:17 pm

um, smack dab in the middle. he's on the gurnie!

hpdfk · Post by **hpdfk** » 4/9/2004, 3:20 pm

Ohhhhhhh that thingie! :lol:

I was trying to see if he was hidden in the fingerpint smudge or something.

Long Jonny · Post by **Long Jonny** » 4/9/2004, 3:21 pm

this should actually answer all ur questions on the title, cover, and the sm cover...

raine on much on demand (june 25, 2002):

Jenn: WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS ALBUM COVER HERE. THE FIRST TIME A PHOTO OF THE BAND IS ON THE COVER.

Raine: YOU KNOW WHAT? THE TITLE AND US BEING ON THE COVER, IT'S VERY MUCH THE ANTITHESIS, LIKE THE OPPOSITE OF "SPIRITUAL MACHINES." THAT RECORD WAS WAY OUT THERE, BASED LOOSELY ON THE BOOK. IT WAS TOUGH FOR ME TO GET THROUGH THE BOOK, BUT I THINK THIS IS JUST COMING BACK TO— IT'S VERY GROUNDED, JUST ABOUT FOUR GUYS MAKING A ROCK RECORD AND JUST HAVING—JUST IN THE WAY THAT BOB WAS ABLE TO SIMPLIFY OUR SOUND AND MAKE IT SOUND A LITTLE BIT MORE POWERFUL. IT JUST FEELS VERY REAL TO US. THAT'S WHY—I DON'T KNOW. IT FEELS LIKE THERE'S NOTHING TO HIDE, SO WE FIGURED WE WOULD PUT OUR FACES ON THE RECORD.

Jenn: I WANT TO KNOW WHAT SAUL HAS BEEN UP TO. HE WAS THE ACTOR ON THE COVERS OF YOUR FIRST THREE ALBUMS—

Jer: FOUR ACTUALLY. HE'S ON "SPIRITUAL MACHINES,"

Jenn: OH, IS HE HIDING ON THERE?

Jer: YEAH. HE'S RIGHT ON THE GURNEY.

Raine: HE'S ON THE GURNEY.

Jenn: OH.

Jer: YEAH, BUT HE'S GETTING OLDER NOW. IT'S A BIT MORE OF A DEAL TO BRING— HE'S PROBABLY IN HIS MID-80s.

Raine: PLUS THIS RECORD KIND OF SIGNIFIES LIKE A REBIRTH FOR THE BAND, SO IT WAS TIME TO CAN SAUL. (Chuckling)

Jer: WE DIDN'T CAN HIM! JEEZ!

Jenn: DID YOU SEND HIM A COPY OF THE ALBUM AT LEAST?

Jer: HELL, HE CAN HAVE WHATEVER HE WANTS WHENEVER HE WANTS. HE'S AN AMAZING INDIVIDUAL, THAT GUY. HE LEADS QUITE THE LIFE. HE'S GOT GREAT STORIES AND HE'S GOING DOWN IN HISTORY.

AnnieDreams · Post by **AnnieDreams** » 4/9/2004, 3:33 pm

Long Jon wrote:sol's on the cover of sm... look closely at the gernie (sp?)

and the whole reason he wasn't on gravity is because they wanted to redefine themseleves as a new band. they said that by putting themselves on the cover, they were getting back to the basics of rock and roll. just pure rock and roll.

Yeah, that's basically it. They said that gravity was meant to be a more grounded record (hence the title) and simple, so the band photo seemed to fit, cause she asked them why they had Sol and the first three records but not this one (he corrected her in saying that sol was on the gernie)

Edit: crap, that whole thing was for nothing cause you just posted the actual quote!

Long Jonny · Post by **Long Jonny** » 4/9/2004, 3:35 pm

hpdfk · Post by **hpdfk** » 4/9/2004, 3:41 pm

ya that's the interview I was refering to. I'm just lazy

Henrietta · Post by **Henrietta** » 4/9/2004, 6:15 pm

I wonder if their caps was broken, or they were yelling the whole time.

Long Jonny · Post by **Long Jonny** » 4/9/2004, 6:50 pm

my guess is yelling the whole time. :nod: