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Rufus Wainwright wrote:No, she doesn't rule. Sorry, it's just how it goes.

People like her are what discourage me about the future. I mean, people like her that get stoned and come onto messageboards bragging about it are really just pretty pathetic people, and I'm sure any free thinking person would agree. Wow, you smoked a couple bowls, have red eyes, think you're funny, and you all of a sudden rule? No, you're a waste on society and will probably be one of those people in the future that fuck someone's life over. People like her scare me. They're the scourge of society because they will be the future and will probably have kids and they'll turn out to be fucked up too.


to a certain extent i agree with you, but it's a little harsh. i don't use drugs, i never have and never will, but i wouldnt go as far as saying she(people like her) are the scourge of society. i would say pedophiles and serial killers are.
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oh if anyone is wondering where that quote i posted is from, it's from a spoken word in a God speed you! black emporer song called "dead flag blues" i'm not sure whether it's a band memeber speaking or if it's a seperate author
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good

"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good

I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.

"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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It's kind of funny how no one ever says anything when Rob or Johnathan come on drunk, and make jokes about it, but when some newbie comes on high, its a big deal.

A drugs a drug, and alcohol is just as much of a drug than pot is.
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wow yannic has grown up so much over the last year, she has her own deep seeded opinions now, she can talk about complex issues and she's only in gr. 11, i think she deserves a round of applause
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good

"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good

I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.

"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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thirdhour wrote:A drugs a drug, and alcohol is just as much of a drug than pot is.


no one dies manufacturing/selling/moving alcohol.
Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.


Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
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Clumsyboy wrote:wow yannic has grown up so much over the last year, she has her own deep seeded opinions now, she can talk about complex issues and she's only in gr. 11, i think she deserves a round of applause


Actually, I'm technically in grade 10 :lol:
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Bandalero wrote:
thirdhour wrote:A drugs a drug, and alcohol is just as much of a drug than pot is.


no one dies manufacturing/selling/moving alcohol.


Yeah, but thats because it's illegal. If it was legal, it wouldnt be a problem. If alcohol was illegal, the same thing would happen. It has nothing to do with the drug itself, just how the government treats it.
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if it were legal the same people would be doing something else illegal with the same consequence. your just changing their "occupation" and people would still be killed because of it.

not a sinlge bootlegger went leguit when prohabition ended.
Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.


Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
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I don't see how making something legal magically changes it so its no longer a drug.

It takes a weight off your conscience is all.
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Yes, thats what I'm saying. I'm not defending pot, I'm saying alcohol is just as bad, and people should treat it as such.
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first of all.....i've missed you yannick.

secondly, people are being killed because of the demand for pot, so it's alot worse then alcohol. just like the coke bottling company you've mentioned before, that makes coca-cola products worse then alcohol as well.
Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.


Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
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Yeah, we know. People die for the production of illegal drugs and that sorta stuff.
Unfourtunately that has no relivance on how drugs affect the users. Yes, its a terrible thing but it has nothing to do with what were talking about. Its the fact that alcohol is a drug that has a lot of side effects like pot does but no one conciders it a drug because its legal.
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Goodbye you liar,
Well you sipped from the cup but you don't own up to anything
Then you think you will inspire
Take apart your head
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Take apart your demons, then you add it to the list.

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Random Name wrote:Yeah, we know. People die for the production of illegal drugs and that sorta stuff.
Unfourtunately that has no relivance on how drugs affect the users. Yes, its a terrible thing but it has nothing to do with what were talking about. Its the fact that alcohol is a drug that has a lot of side effects like pot does but no one conciders it a drug because its legal.


i know it has no relevence on how it affects the users because:

1. they do not know it;s killing people
or
2. the don't care.

the truth is users, pushers, trafficers, makers are the scourge of the world because of these two reasons, not because they use the drug itself.
Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.


Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
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Automatic doors kill people every year. You can be blamed for those two things too! Does that affect your "automatic door usage"?
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Well you sipped from the cup but you don't own up to anything
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automatic doors serve a purpose, and sometimes accidents happen.

what purpose do drugs serve? it serves the cartel as a form of income. and to maximize it's profits cartels will kill anyone. harvesting organs is not an accident. buisnesses, leguit buisness anyway, will maximize it's profits legally, or at least they won't kill anyone over it.
Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.


Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
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Cabbage! :D *hugs*

Dude, I understand what you're saying, but the question is: WHY is pot illegal, but alcohol isnt. You cant say its because the pot trade kills people, because thats happening BECAUSE its illegal. How many people die every year in drunk driving accidents? How many people are killed by someone who is drunk?

By the way, I've NEVER heard of someone being killed over pot. Maybe I'm wrong, but around here, there's no 'transportation' happening, or even dealing then sub-dealing. You go to your dealer's house and he grows it right there. Fresh local produce! :lol:

besides, the point of this argument was saying that the act of consuming the drug is just as bad as the act of consuming alcohol.
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because unlike alcohol it's not refined to certain specifications. like you said, anyone can get seeds and make their own crop. there's many different types of weed out there with different levels of potentcy. you cannot really oversee who's making what and regulate it consistantly. with alcohol you can oversee the ingredients and who's buying them.

and here close to the border people die constantly. people go missing and ransoms have to be met just for the body to be returned for proper burial. gun fights in mexico have happened, people killed for their organs so that the cost of a lost load to border agents is made up. this is stuff you might not here all the time out there, but it's frequent here. drug gangs are forming aliances that can outgun mexican federales. and it's all to supply a demand for something so stupid as pot.

and finally, the act of consuming alcohol is no where near as bad as consumption of drugs. look around, there are more bars then there are pot cafes. it's socially accpeted for a reason. there are always going to be people who abuse, they'll abuse alcohol and they'll abuse drugs, but at the end of the day, who do you want to be in a car with? a guy that's had 6 beers, or a guy that's smokes 6 joints, or took 6 pills, or 6 snorts, or 6 shrooms? and it's because of abuse that we can't have certain drugs for medical use. people can't have their pain dulled because some ass hole is constantly abusing a medicine that serves a purpose in society, but he'd rather put in his body when he doesn't need it.
Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.


Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
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i personally don't think any drugs should be legal whatsoever. to me, drugs just seem really pointless. they weren't meant to be consumed by humans besides the medicinal purposes of marijuana. its like rolling relish, ketchup, and mustard in wax paper, lighting it on fire and breathing it through your nose...well, other drugs serve a bit more of a purpose, but i don't think anyone should resort to that.
as for being jaded, i guess everyone is influenced, or "jaded" on everything. to detect the cause is tricky, but the sorry state of the world can be appropriately blamed at times. i don't think you should just sit back and watch while feeling sorry for everything. if you really cared enough, you would try to do something about it. but everyone has their purpose and to each his own, but why let yourself become jaded and let these things happen to you? i know it's easier said than done, but i would rather stay strong and true to myself while trying to influence others and possibly find a greater purpose. but like i said, it's easier said than done. growing up under these conditions can jade you, but if you are aware, then i don't understand how you stay jaded.
i dont know. i should shut up now. go watch "fight club"
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WHY is it socially acceptable to get drunk out of your mind to the point of passing out?

Dude. Alcohol is a drug. Pot is a drug. Big happy drug family. Pot (in small doses) is not crazily bad for you. Alcohol (in small doses) is not crazily bad for you.

If pot was legal, many of the problems associated with drug dealing would be gone. Legitimate buisnesses could be formed and dealing wouldnt have to happen in back alleys. I don't beleive you that pot is worse for you than alcohol. Proove it.
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big_green_monkey wrote:i personally don't think any drugs should be legal whatsoever.



That's easy to say, and pretend they would just disapear, but really having them legal just illiminates some of the risk. Of course, having beer commercials isnt the best thing thats ever happened to our society....:freak:
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