You Know What I Wish Raine Would Do?

Axtech · Post by **Axtech** » 12/3/2003, 6:56 am

Personally, I don't think he lost inspiration. I think he just kind of grew in a different direction. I mean, I don't think many would argue that the guitar on SM spans from ambient to amazing...

He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named · Post by **He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named** » 12/3/2003, 1:37 pm

I love the guitar work on Spiritual Machines, whether it be by Jamie or Mike.

However, is there a way to distinguish who is playing what, on the album anyway? I notice during live shows that Mike sometimes wouldn't even play during a verse and other times he would. I'm not exactly an expert on guitars, I just know what sounds good.

Axtech · Post by **Axtech** » 12/3/2003, 2:47 pm

I think that, for the most part, Mike is doing the lead stuff, while Jamie does the rhythm. Makes sense, because at Snowjob, Jamie's wearing big-ass ski gloves while playing. :lol:

Johnny · Post by **Johnny** » 12/3/2003, 3:04 pm

Hehe.

Isnt it obvious that Mike would played lead?

Keri · Post by **Keri** » 12/3/2003, 3:24 pm

Back to the original comment about Raine needing voice lessons... I think that voice lessons might ruin Raine's unique sound but in some cases he does need to tune his voice a little better before shows or practice or do something 'cause hes lacking just a little bit in the live area.

As for mike and steve... I dont really know who i like better.. I think gravity is OLP's weakest cd (I halfly blame Bob Rock for that) and thats the only cd Steve has played on... I dont think I am even ready to fully judge him yet... I mean he's awesome live but he hasnt done any writing or anything yet so I will have to see... but i think right now i prefer mike a lil more.

trentm32 · Post by **trentm32** » 12/3/2003, 4:28 pm

Rufus Wainwright wrote:Here's two things you need to know about life.

1. Raine is infallible. He can do no wrong. He can dumb his songs down to extrodinary depths, even as low as Puddle Of Mud, and completely abandon his unique voice, and it's still OK.

2. You're a moron. Mike > Steve. There's no debating this.

err, sorry. I mean :naughty:

He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named · Post by **He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named** » 12/3/2003, 5:34 pm

Absent Minded Guitarist wrote:Hehe.

Isnt it obvious that Mike would played lead?

Maybe I'm mistaken, but I don't think he played lead on "Life". At least he didn't on Conan, with one of the few oppurtunities I get to see OLP in the US.

Sufjan Stevens · Post by **Sufjan Stevens** » 12/3/2003, 6:17 pm

Trent. Thank you. At least you got it.

I am sorry I forgot the golden rule of slapping 7 emoticons after each joke I make. I'll try not to mix that up again.

But hey, keep thinking what you want. Keep taking everything personally. Keep looking like morons with your reactions. Way to go peoples.

He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named · Post by **He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named** » 12/3/2003, 6:24 pm

Maybe you'll remember the rule next time.

In all seriousness, you shouldn't really expect people to take it as a joke with the way some people talk around here. I can't even sense the sarcasm when I read it. It's hard to hear tone of voice on a message board.

Anyway, it's behind me.

I AM ME · Post by **I AM ME** » 12/3/2003, 11:59 pm

i still love both of them, i'm just saying Naveed was my fav by Mike, and from what i've seen Steve definatly has some great talent, i would love to see him just go nuts on songs and add 1-2 min instrumentals into the songs not just live but on record. This is something IME has made me crave, it's not like the instrumentals are out of place they're just part of the song, completely natural. Where as when you watch steve, he goes nots and then he's abruptly cut short before it feels like the solo should end, for an example "in Repair" he was doing great and then WHAM, back into the rest of the song

Henrietta · Post by **Henrietta** » 12/4/2003, 1:56 pm

Why is it that one has to be better than the other? Why can't they just be great in their own style?

I quite agree.

I also think vocal lessons would probably do him some good. Any idiot can hear that his falsetto is declining. That would be awesome if he could reclaim some of that.

Long Jonny · Post by **Long Jonny** » 12/4/2003, 1:58 pm

but I thought that Bobby didn't want him to use his falsetto anymore.

Henrietta · Post by **Henrietta** » 12/4/2003, 2:02 pm

Lemme at him!

CODITH · Post by **CODITH** » 12/4/2003, 2:19 pm

Age does make a difference on someones voice, Raine can still hit those high notes, but with the extensive touring and such, if he were to continously do that now, im sure he would lose his voice.

Brooklin Matt · Post by **Brooklin Matt** » 12/4/2003, 6:08 pm

In defence of Raine, I thought he nailed the high notes during his Juno performance of "Not Afraid". He may be declining a bit, but i still think he's got some juice left.

Random Name · Post by **Random Name** » 12/4/2003, 6:17 pm

heh heh heh
"you wern't supposed to play that were you?"
"nope

"

good time.

cor3y · Post by **cor3y** » 12/6/2003, 4:18 pm

I like how he sounded back in 1995. A much more aggressive style, although not as flexible. They're also pretty different songs than what was on Clumsy and afterwards, so that may be it.

Random Name · Post by **Random Name** » 12/6/2003, 4:19 pm

the thing is, we're way past '95 now.

Jeni · Post by **Jeni** » 12/8/2003, 10:20 am

Anacin02 wrote:I don't think Raine needs vocal lessons, but I do miss those high notes he used to hit, especially on Happiness.

Rachel is soooo correct. I miss the high notes

nelison · Post by **nelison** » 12/8/2003, 10:31 am

Umm... As far as I know Raine has a vocal coach. Him and Chantal go to the same person. A girl in my residence has the brochure that the vocal coach uses to get new people, it said that the coach had worked with both of them on the brochure.