i think i remember him! ewww ricky j! *retches*
..umm...sorry.
Why is everyone so negative about OLP lately?
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I actually liked that song! 
It was quite catchy plus the guy didn't sound all that bad! Of course, he disappeared off the face of the planet a few weeks after that song was release...kinda sad.
Gravity definitely beat Nellyville, The Eminem Show, and that Kelly Clarkson album.
It was quite catchy plus the guy didn't sound all that bad! Of course, he disappeared off the face of the planet a few weeks after that song was release...kinda sad.
Gravity definitely beat Nellyville, The Eminem Show, and that Kelly Clarkson album.
And if I don't make it known that
I've loved you all along
Just like sunny days that
We ignore because
We're all dumb and jaded
And I hope to God I figure out
What's wrong
~4am~
I've loved you all along
Just like sunny days that
We ignore because
We're all dumb and jaded
And I hope to God I figure out
What's wrong
~4am~
You know, they have gained alot of fans, and lost some, sure their music is different then when Naveed came out, and now people are calling them "sell outs" which they are not becuase they care a lot about their fans. People are just starting to realize this. I've realized that they care enough about their fans that they keep the music coming. During concerts they keep their fans entertained, I mean some bands are so boring to watch on stage, OLP is NOT one of thoughs bands.
-Jaded
<br>"All the promises we make
from the cradle to the grave
when all I want is you.."
-U2
<br>"All the promises we make
from the cradle to the grave
when all I want is you.."
-U2
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big_green_monkey
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Jaded wrote:You know, they have gained alot of fans, and lost some, sure their music is different then when Naveed came out, and now people are calling them "sell outs" which they are not becuase they care a lot about their fans. People are just starting to realize this. I've realized that they care enough about their fans that they keep the music coming. During concerts they keep their fans entertained, I mean some bands are so boring to watch on stage, OLP is NOT one of thoughs bands.
jeeze. no one's calling them sellouts. (except for my brother.) about the concerts, people aren't disappointed about the energy put into it, they are disappointed about how similar each show is and how raine is predictable. plus they haven't changed a song in their setlist for quite some time. i do agree that they keep their music coming considering they have almost been working for 5 years straight now.
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<p>And in my darkest moment, fetal and weeping. The moon tells me a secret. My confidant. As full and bright as I am, this light is not my own. A million light reflections pass over me. It's source is bright and endless. She resuscitates the hopeless. Without her we are lifeless satellites dreaming dreams. And as I pull my head out I am without one doubt. Don't want to be down here feeding my narcissism. I must crucify the ego before it's far too late. I pray the light lifts me out before I pine away.
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CluMsyNavEed
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Let's see... where should I began. I respect everyones opinion on this board, sure I dont have a lot of posts, but I come here daily. I have candy- coated Gravity for a long time. At first I tried to blame the reason the album wasn't on par with the first 4 records was because of Bob Rock. I would blame the simplicity of both lyrics and sound on Bob. But in the long run Gravity wasn't Bob's fault, sure he told Raine to break it down, but did he have a gun to his head and say "I'll pull the trigger if you dont change this shit right now"? Nope, he probably didn't. I think the reason a lot of us blame Bob is because we have hopes that maybe it was him... that OLP wasn't going in the wrong direction... But in the long run OLP is doing what they want. If the 6th album comes out and is complete shit, it isn't Bob's fault. its OLP's new direction that they have chosen.
After reading the last 10 pages on this topic I have also noticed a lot of pro-Gravity people stating that a lot of us who disagree with Gravity have started to grow out of OLP. I disagree with that. If I had started to grow out of OLP would I still love the first 4 albums? Nope... I would put them aside.. But I still constantly listen to Naveed through SM.... It just makes me sick to know that something so great is heading towards disaster. Since Gravity was released I said "Album six will be better". but now Im at the point to where I can no longer lie to myself. I really feel as if OLP has lost what made them unique. Have I given up hope for album 6? Not completely... but the title itself and the small amount of songs that I have heard are disappointing. If album six comes out and it is amazing , then that will be great.. But we will have to wait and see.
I know a lot of people who love all 5 albums are tired of people complaining about Gravity but the only reason I complain is because OLP is a big part of my life and no music has ever touched me the way OLP's did. I don't hate OLP,I just disagree with their new direction . The one thing I am tired of though is people saying look how good Raine is, he can go from complex to simple.... Anyone can do that shit...... This is all just an opinion though, just wanted to get it out
After reading the last 10 pages on this topic I have also noticed a lot of pro-Gravity people stating that a lot of us who disagree with Gravity have started to grow out of OLP. I disagree with that. If I had started to grow out of OLP would I still love the first 4 albums? Nope... I would put them aside.. But I still constantly listen to Naveed through SM.... It just makes me sick to know that something so great is heading towards disaster. Since Gravity was released I said "Album six will be better". but now Im at the point to where I can no longer lie to myself. I really feel as if OLP has lost what made them unique. Have I given up hope for album 6? Not completely... but the title itself and the small amount of songs that I have heard are disappointing. If album six comes out and it is amazing , then that will be great.. But we will have to wait and see.
I know a lot of people who love all 5 albums are tired of people complaining about Gravity but the only reason I complain is because OLP is a big part of my life and no music has ever touched me the way OLP's did. I don't hate OLP,I just disagree with their new direction . The one thing I am tired of though is people saying look how good Raine is, he can go from complex to simple.... Anyone can do that shit...... This is all just an opinion though, just wanted to get it out
What I felt before was wrong, I told myself all along, these familiar feelings take away the pain. And with this reason to rebel, I told you how I felt, you turned and sighed and said you couldn't feel a thing for me. And I lost another wish in all of this.
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CluMsyNavEed wrote:but did he have a gun to his head and say "I'll pull the trigger if you dont change this shit right now"? Nope, he probably didn't.
yes. the key word is <i>probably</i>. you never know...
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<p>And in my darkest moment, fetal and weeping. The moon tells me a secret. My confidant. As full and bright as I am, this light is not my own. A million light reflections pass over me. It's source is bright and endless. She resuscitates the hopeless. Without her we are lifeless satellites dreaming dreams. And as I pull my head out I am without one doubt. Don't want to be down here feeding my narcissism. I must crucify the ego before it's far too late. I pray the light lifts me out before I pine away.
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<p>And in my darkest moment, fetal and weeping. The moon tells me a secret. My confidant. As full and bright as I am, this light is not my own. A million light reflections pass over me. It's source is bright and endless. She resuscitates the hopeless. Without her we are lifeless satellites dreaming dreams. And as I pull my head out I am without one doubt. Don't want to be down here feeding my narcissism. I must crucify the ego before it's far too late. I pray the light lifts me out before I pine away.
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Well, I'm not candy-coating Gravity at all. Yes, it's extremely simple from their first four but I don't find that a bad thing. Sure, I miss the old OLP but I like this new stuff as well. I find something in it that others don't, I guess. It's all opinion-based. I'm just tired of people saying that OLP have lost their creativeness, there's no meaning in their songs anymore, etc. Fine, don't like it...but who are you to say there is absolutely no honesty or meaning in their new material? Unless you're Raine, Duncan, or Jeremy (the ones who have been part of Gravity since the beginning), you wouldn't know for sure.
And if I don't make it known that
I've loved you all along
Just like sunny days that
We ignore because
We're all dumb and jaded
And I hope to God I figure out
What's wrong
~4am~
I've loved you all along
Just like sunny days that
We ignore because
We're all dumb and jaded
And I hope to God I figure out
What's wrong
~4am~
My only beef is this:
Now see people say that he easily could have told Bob that he didn't want to write simple lyrics, but think about this. Bob Rock is one of the biggest producers in the world. Usually whatever he touches turns to gold. If OLP wants to get huge, than why not go to Bob and listen to everythng he says? He may not have put a gun to Raine's head but there's always that image of the horse being led by the dangling carrot. Only in this case the carrot is money, because let's face it, Bob Rock brings in the cash.
If Bob Rock = Popularity
and Popularity = Money
than Bob Rock = Money
They want to get big and in order to get big you have to work with the big guns in the industry,
but did he have a gun to his head and say "I'll pull the trigger if you dont change this shit right now"? Nope, he probably didn't.
Now see people say that he easily could have told Bob that he didn't want to write simple lyrics, but think about this. Bob Rock is one of the biggest producers in the world. Usually whatever he touches turns to gold. If OLP wants to get huge, than why not go to Bob and listen to everythng he says? He may not have put a gun to Raine's head but there's always that image of the horse being led by the dangling carrot. Only in this case the carrot is money, because let's face it, Bob Rock brings in the cash.
If Bob Rock = Popularity
and Popularity = Money
than Bob Rock = Money
They want to get big and in order to get big you have to work with the big guns in the industry,
I can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
the only way to stop the bitching is make this something other than an Our Lady Peace board, heh.
because, I've been gone for months, and all I really feel like doing is bitch about the fact that their next album is supposed to be called "Wipe That Smile Off Your Face." What the fuck?
now, I should log off and go back to not caring about Our Lady Peace anymore.
because, I've been gone for months, and all I really feel like doing is bitch about the fact that their next album is supposed to be called "Wipe That Smile Off Your Face." What the fuck?
now, I should log off and go back to not caring about Our Lady Peace anymore.
::livejournal::
<font color="#CCFFCC">spent and sighing with a look in your eye
spent and sighing with a look on your face like
sweet revelation</font>
<font color="#CCFFCC">spent and sighing with a look in your eye
spent and sighing with a look on your face like
sweet revelation</font>
I honestly just think that some drug company needs to give out free-bees to many people on this board.
I've cut down to no more than a couple trips a week on here........because its turned out to become the same ol' "blah blah blah" crappy, piss and moan conversations day in and day out.
It's old......album #6 won't be out for months so I say that everybody should just sleep on it, or rest on their laurels, and give all the tiresome "whoh is me, whoh is me, OLP just ISN'T the same boo hooooo hooo" conversations a rest.
I've cut down to no more than a couple trips a week on here........because its turned out to become the same ol' "blah blah blah" crappy, piss and moan conversations day in and day out.
It's old......album #6 won't be out for months so I say that everybody should just sleep on it, or rest on their laurels, and give all the tiresome "whoh is me, whoh is me, OLP just ISN'T the same boo hooooo hooo" conversations a rest.
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big_green_monkey
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jeeze. woh is me. olp just isn't the same anymore. i don't think gravity is good enough for olp. the new album is gonna suck. olp sucks live now. olp sucks. woh is me.
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<p>And in my darkest moment, fetal and weeping. The moon tells me a secret. My confidant. As full and bright as I am, this light is not my own. A million light reflections pass over me. It's source is bright and endless. She resuscitates the hopeless. Without her we are lifeless satellites dreaming dreams. And as I pull my head out I am without one doubt. Don't want to be down here feeding my narcissism. I must crucify the ego before it's far too late. I pray the light lifts me out before I pine away.
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<p>And in my darkest moment, fetal and weeping. The moon tells me a secret. My confidant. As full and bright as I am, this light is not my own. A million light reflections pass over me. It's source is bright and endless. She resuscitates the hopeless. Without her we are lifeless satellites dreaming dreams. And as I pull my head out I am without one doubt. Don't want to be down here feeding my narcissism. I must crucify the ego before it's far too late. I pray the light lifts me out before I pine away.
no one said any of you had to read this, it's just fans discussing there fears for olp's future. If anyof us really didn't like olp, or think they were amazing, we would think Gravity was decent, but seeing as how we have high expectations we think they can do much more. Or are you people trying to tell us that OLP is not capable of more? Because if so, then maybe it is us that are the die hard blind fans that keep thinking olp had something great.
Criticism = good
Blind faith = bad
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
For the love of GOD everyone!!!!!
What is goin on here??? I haven't been here for about a month because with work and other things I had to take care of I haven't had a chance to hardly turn on the computer...
But holy shit! When I left there were a few complaints and whinings and this and that... but now I read flat out "OLP SUCKS"???????????????? If you're trying to motivate them or prove that you're not just 'blind followers' but true fans, get a friggin clue!!!
If you don't like them right now, don't listen to it, and if you do and want to whine about it, talk to your mirrors please!!!!!! I agree that criticism motivates, but kicking and spitting and running mouths just brings people down - the fans as well as the ones who make the music!
All this is beside the fact that you can only write metaphors and letters to God for so long... then you have to say fuck it and write what you want to actually say... ESPECIALLY to george W the mastermind of masterbation!!!
I too am sorry for the rant but please guys, someone stop these 'death to OLP' threads???? I come here because I am a fan and always will be, not to hear you people tear them down... here's a hint: www.olpsucks.com.... someone go buy that domain and make your own fuckin whine fest......
What is goin on here??? I haven't been here for about a month because with work and other things I had to take care of I haven't had a chance to hardly turn on the computer...
But holy shit! When I left there were a few complaints and whinings and this and that... but now I read flat out "OLP SUCKS"???????????????? If you're trying to motivate them or prove that you're not just 'blind followers' but true fans, get a friggin clue!!!
If you don't like them right now, don't listen to it, and if you do and want to whine about it, talk to your mirrors please!!!!!! I agree that criticism motivates, but kicking and spitting and running mouths just brings people down - the fans as well as the ones who make the music!
All this is beside the fact that you can only write metaphors and letters to God for so long... then you have to say fuck it and write what you want to actually say... ESPECIALLY to george W the mastermind of masterbation!!!
I too am sorry for the rant but please guys, someone stop these 'death to OLP' threads???? I come here because I am a fan and always will be, not to hear you people tear them down... here's a hint: www.olpsucks.com.... someone go buy that domain and make your own fuckin whine fest......
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Fence02 wrote:ESPECIALLY to george W the mastermind of masterbation!!!
i have to say this: it's masturbation. sorry, but i cant sit back and watch that word being spelled wrong.
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<p>And in my darkest moment, fetal and weeping. The moon tells me a secret. My confidant. As full and bright as I am, this light is not my own. A million light reflections pass over me. It's source is bright and endless. She resuscitates the hopeless. Without her we are lifeless satellites dreaming dreams. And as I pull my head out I am without one doubt. Don't want to be down here feeding my narcissism. I must crucify the ego before it's far too late. I pray the light lifts me out before I pine away.
<p><img src="http://www.clumsymonkey.net/phpBB2/images/photos/1856505c3f2a92cc7a130.jpg">
<p>And in my darkest moment, fetal and weeping. The moon tells me a secret. My confidant. As full and bright as I am, this light is not my own. A million light reflections pass over me. It's source is bright and endless. She resuscitates the hopeless. Without her we are lifeless satellites dreaming dreams. And as I pull my head out I am without one doubt. Don't want to be down here feeding my narcissism. I must crucify the ego before it's far too late. I pray the light lifts me out before I pine away.