US passes a bill to outlaw partial-birth abortions
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by sandsleeper » 3/15/2003, 10:31 pm
yeah i went and named him after you, the least you could do is use him!
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by One-Eye » 3/16/2003, 12:49 am
Agreed. But what gets itchy is how you define "living being". A zygote has no thoughts, feelings, or any other attributes of being alive, let alone human. Without the mother it could not survive. Aborting it is not murdering anything, just as eating scrambled eggs for breakfast isn't murdering "what could have become chickens".
I'm against abortion after the 2nd trimester. BUT. I don't think the government should legislate it. My personal morals shouldn't be forced upon others.
I'm against abortion after the 2nd trimester. BUT. I don't think the government should legislate it. My personal morals shouldn't be forced upon others.
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by Bandalero » 3/16/2003, 2:19 am
Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
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by bovine » 3/16/2003, 10:28 am
I am pro-choice and anti abortion. I do not see abortion as murder, but rather a lesser form of suicide. While I don't agree with abortion (or suicide) I don't believe that the gov't should have the right to restrict that ability. I don't think it becomes murder until the fetus is completly separated (physically) from the mother.
Oh, to those of you who are pro-life, do you eat eggs? Just wondering because if you do, I think that's really hypocritical..think about it
:::troy:::
Oh, to those of you who are pro-life, do you eat eggs? Just wondering because if you do, I think that's really hypocritical..think about it
:::troy:::
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by faninor » 3/16/2003, 12:18 pm
I'm against abortion later on in pregnancy. If abortions can be justified by saying that it isn't alive yet, then I think once the fetus gets to a point where it could survive without the mother, it is alive and an abortion is no longer justified. If you can kill the baby and justify it because it wasn't alive, there was one life before and one life now so nobody has been murdered, you should be able to justify killing the mother and saving the baby . . . it was only one life the entire time, after all.
And it is not at all hypocritical to eat eggs. Most of the pro-life people who eat eggs also eat chicken.
And it is not at all hypocritical to eat eggs. Most of the pro-life people who eat eggs also eat chicken.
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