Our Lady Peaces future

In Repair · Post by **In Repair** » 3/30/2004, 10:46 am

Hey am new here
On different forums I have read that some members diden't expect Our Lady Peace being around this winter and on other forums I read that they will. Some members on a forum did also hear on the radio that they would breake up(I don't know if this is true). And that make me really confused because I don't want this to end for this great band...Maybe some fans have there doubts because they haven't got a tourdate yet.

I know that they have a new album out soone but what do you think would be the future for this band?

Not that I don't have any patient but It just get complicated or whatever :roll:

I really hope someone will answer this

In Repair · Post by **In Repair** » 3/30/2004, 10:47 am

soon*

Neil · Post by **Neil** » 3/30/2004, 10:58 am

I think people are just PMS'ing about OLP........the band won't end until Raine says then can!!! :lol:

Just kidding...
I don't foresee the demise of OLP until the creativity stops (no Bob Rock jokes, please).
I definitely don't see the upcoming album being their last.

Also.....no tourdates will probably be announced until we're at least quite close to the DEFINITE release of album six. Some say June.....others say Thanksgiving, hell others proably think NEXT Easter.

Gotta give it time......still early.

nelison · Post by **nelison** » 3/30/2004, 11:17 am

The problem is OLp is receiving a huge wave of younger fans, who have shorter attention spans, and unless the band constantly has things going on in the public spotlight, than they're probably contmeplating breaking up. This of course isn't true.

We've talked about this type of thing before in here, most notably of late in the "OLP website" thread.

Be patient, they'll be out in full force soon enough.

Neil · Post by **Neil** » 3/30/2004, 11:28 am

Hey Jim..............is Our Lady Peace that band that sings that song called "Somewhere Out There" on the Now 11 album?????!????

Johnny · Post by **Johnny** » 3/30/2004, 12:06 pm

leik omgfngawd olp effing rawks!!!!!!

Baby Thief · Post by **Baby Thief** » 3/30/2004, 1:43 pm

I'm sorry but I have to speak up.

OLP's creativity is steadily dropping. Their upcoming cd has to show some inspiration. Sure they may be having fun, but i don't think that Raine repeating the words 'Walking in Circles' and stay fun for too long. Hopefully album6 will show some likeness to the clumsy or naveed-era (expecting that there is no way they will tyr to repeat SM as it was their worst in album sales, and Happiness... well it was just one of a kind). Anyways, we'll see what happens.

starseed_10 · Post by **starseed_10** » 3/30/2004, 2:04 pm

i wouldnt say it's steadily dropping... their new direction may not come off as overly creative, but just the fact that they're trying new things shows some creativity.

all the same, i'm in agreeance(sp!) with the whole "walking in circles" etc. thing.

Axtech · Post by **Axtech** » 3/30/2004, 2:27 pm

Hey, we have a new nominee for the "person most likely to make a thread that's already been made 3 times" category!

Anyways... At this point, I honestly wouldn't care if OLP broke up. I mean, if the whole band had split up when Mike left (or any time before), it would have been a tragedy. But now, I just don't see the band making anything that's really worth making. Sure, they'll gain their spot at the top of the charts, right along with Chad Choader and every other hit-of-the-moment bands and pop acts. But the fact of the matter is, they've lost everything that made them worth listening to. They were creative, insightful, meaningful, with a complexity that blended itself into simplicity (don't ask me to explain. Listen to SM passively; you get a simple CD with some great songs. Listen intently for what's there, and there's an orgasmic plethora of sounds.) Let's pretend for a moment that OLP broke up when Mike left. Then a new band came along, named Our Lad Pete. A song comes out of the radio "I know you're out there, somewhere out there." Tell me, would you really have run out to buy the CD, hoping to find a band that you can really feel at home with, or would you just buy it 'cause you kinda like it, or would you just ignore it all together? Without their first four albums, OLP are nothing. I think it's absolutely ridiculous for them to completely turn their backs on that. And it's not like they couldn't experiment with sound. I mean, listen to Naveed and then Clumsy; two completely different albums. Each of their albums had a fresh sound, and it was never repetitive. They could have easily given their style a rock twist without jumping head-over-heals into the atrocious poppy mush that became of Gravity. I think they made a big mistake with this. The only reason that I can see them preferring this route is because it's easier. It's easier to write "Walking in circles. Walking in circles. Walking in circles". It's easier to sing somewhat off-key, without experimenting with falsettos, or putting some emotion in your voice. It's easier to play a simple heavy drum beat than to craft a rhythmic section. And the worst of it all is that the band thinks the fans love it! That is, of course, because their main conception of “fans” is those who show up to their shows, singing along to the oh-so-challenging chorus of "Innocent". What they don't seem to realize is that these "fans" are the ones who just come and go, completely untouched by the music or the message. They think they're touching more lives this way. They're not. They're just becoming the passing fad in more lives. They've taken on a position of lessened respectability. They've taken on a position of lessened creativity. Most of all, they've taken on a position of lessened intelligence. Everything is dumbed down, and it sickens me.

Whew. I wasn't expecting that to come out. heh...

areusad831 · Post by **areusad831** » 3/30/2004, 2:56 pm

*yawn*

evanw60 · Post by **evanw60** » 3/30/2004, 3:25 pm

God. Would people please stop complaining about the lyrics to Walking In Circles. They were playing that in the summer, and the album is supposedly coming out no later than june. So that's, what, 11 or so months between the debut of the song live, and the album that it *might* come out on? OF COURSE it's not going to be finished and polished perfectly. Jesus. The lyrics won't be done, and neither will the insturmentals. They're probably trying to get a feel for the songs, and to see the crowds reaction to them, have they not done that in the past? Despite what everyone thinks of Gravity, and the new songs, OLP still have the ability to write fantastic sounding, and extremely meaningful songs. If they've done it before, they can do it again. I also don't understand why people are already complaining about the new album, when we've only heard sketchy live versions that predate the release by quite a bit. They were working with enough material for a double cd, that makes me really doubt that they're creativity has gone down the drain.

Penguin Josh · Post by **Penguin Josh** » 3/30/2004, 3:43 pm

its OLP still HAS the ability, not have

Post by **faninor** » 3/30/2004, 3:44 pm

I don't see what's wrong with the Walking In Circles thing, there are songs like that on all of their albums.

"Dirty walls, dirty walls, dirty walls, dirty
Dirty walls, dirty walls, dirty walls, dirty"

"It's more than I can bear
It's more than I can bear
It's more than I can bear
It's more, it's more, oh it's more"

"I waited
Oh I , Oh I waited
Oh I, Oh I,
Oh I must be too dumb to be proud
Cause I waited, waited
Oh I , waited, waited here
Oh I"

"Made to heal
I’m made to heal
I’m made to heal
I’m made to heal"

"We are, we are all innocent
We are all innocent
We are, we are...

We are, we are all innocent
We are all innocent
We are, we are..."

Johnny · Post by **Johnny** » 3/30/2004, 3:56 pm

*waits for the new album to make a decsion about OLP future*

Axtech · Post by **Axtech** » 3/30/2004, 4:29 pm

WHUPPA!

*stir stir stir*

Johnny · Post by **Johnny** » 3/30/2004, 4:36 pm

He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named · Post by **He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named** » 3/30/2004, 6:34 pm

I agree that OLP still has the ability. I also think that they will at least partially capitalize on it with the new record.

Say what you will about Mike Turner, but he wasn't the entire reason for the OLP sound. Of course he was a big part of it, and his connection with the fans is sorely missed. But the heart cannot function without the brain, the brain cannot function without the heart.

But you can get a heart transplant.

We've heard what Steve Mazur can do. He is arguably a better guitarist than Mike Turner, talent-wise. We haven't even cracked the surface with him yet, in terms of what his writing will bring to the band. From the only album-stuff we have heard (the holiday video), it sounds very promising to me.

Now, I also absolutely refuse to believe that Raine Maida lost his ability to write deep lyrics in a matter of months. I am certain that he still has them locked up inside him somewhere. For this, I really have to blame Bob Rock ,but Raine needs to tack a whacking, too. He needs to realize what made him (his voice, his lyrics) were changed by Bob. But really, judging songs like Walking in Circles and No Warning aren't really helping us in finding out what the lyrics will be like on the new album. They are all just mumbles, really. Obviously the songs aren't done and I'd be willing to bet at least two of the ones we've heard already won't make the cut.

Now I think Gravity is a decent record, and I really hope this next one will be better and more complex. But I also believe that with another producer OLP would thrive creatively once again.

Johnny · Post by **Johnny** » 3/30/2004, 6:44 pm

Makaveli wrote:We've heard what Steve Mazur can do. He is arguably a better guitarist than Mike Turner, talent-wise.

Please explain how Steve is better?

He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named · Post by **He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named** » 3/30/2004, 6:55 pm

Johnathan wrote:
Makaveli wrote:We've heard what Steve Mazur can do. He is arguably a better guitarist than Mike Turner, talent-wise.

Please explain how Steve is better?

I said that he is arguably more talented than Mike. Doesn't mean that he's a better fit for the OLP sound or writes better music. I have friends who think Steve is better and others who think Mike is better. Doesn't mean either is right.

Not being a guitarist, it's hard to tell exactly what makes Mike sound better than Steve or vice-versa, so I can't really put it into words.

Axtech · Post by **Axtech** » 3/30/2004, 7:24 pm

(Just a side note here, let's not do the whole "omg we've done this a thousand times before!!!1!one" People's viewpoints change. Since nothing else has been going on, I decided to tap into people's current perspectives on the music change.)

I have friends who prefer punk power-chord guitar playing too, but that doesn't make it better.

"Better" is subjective. Neither is universally better. Personally, I prefer Mike's style by far.

I also think that the band's decline (remember, opinion) began before Mike's departure. I'm guessing there was also some personal tension there, which would have lead to creative blockage. Hence, Gravity. I think it's apparent from listening to Mike's new work that he's keeping with and developing his own style.

By saying that the band's decline started with/before Mike's leaving doesn't mean that I think Mike was what made the band. I just think that the band changed in the wrong direction, and that Mike left because of that.

I think Raine does have the potential to write the same lyrics that he did on the first four albums. However, I don't think he can do it without the influence of a good producer. Lanni helped with writing many of the band's lyrics, and it makes sense that Raine's style on the songs that he wrote himself were influenced by working with Lanni. I also think that Rock is holding back what potential Raine does still have on his own (which I think is quite substantial).

I really think the band's gone with one wrong turn after the other.

I should mention that what they're making now is alright. I wouldn't call it good, but it's alright. The band could have been, and still could be, so much more.