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John Bob the Great wrote:and how about that reunion tour he was always talking about :P


Haha I remember reading that in an interview somewhere... That was his answer for everything (including the releases of Trapeze and Yourself, for those unreleased song freaks like me).
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Tattooed Angels wrote:Not really news but this is true CLASS at it's best. From Mike's FB page

Comment to MIke:
man, can i just say, and pardon my language, but fuck does your old band miss you. the skill-less guitar player they have now...it's rough. the guy is a soulless butcher. crash karma on the other hand, extremely lucky to have you! the new album is great!


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Mike Turner Come on( person), Steve's a great player and the important thing is that the music is what remains to be enjoyed. Give the guys a break!
Oh, and thanks for the nice words, it means a lot!


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Wow...whoever said that about Steve needs a punch in the nads. Steve is an incredible guitar player and I have nothing but respect for the guy. His skill on The Wonderful Future last night was highly applaudable (I was screaming in my seat) and honestly, what more do we want from him? He and Mike play on two completely different wavelengths. It's like trying to compare...I don't know, apples and oranges, because I'm too out of it to come up with anything better. They're both awesome, just different kinds of fruit! And Mike and Steve are totally two different kinds of fruit!

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Just saw the post - had to resist the urge to say "How rude!"
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Strong Alibi wrote:
MindsOnLoan wrote:At some other point a few years back though Raine said something along the lines of how Mike will be successful, but it "won't be on a six-stringed instrument."


Yeah that's the one I was thinking of but couldn't find it... I dunno why he's so bitter about Mike... but I remember an interview from back when Mike was in the band where he said "as soon as we make music for money I quit"... so I don't really know if I believe Raine's quote about him being "fired" during Gravity


Here it is:

http://www.ourladypeace.cc/articles/200 ... kSound.htm

“If we hadn’t made the decision to replace Mike (Turner, former guitarist), I don’t think we’d be here right now,” says Raine candidly. “When you’re in the middle of something and you’ve got a record deal you don’t want to rock the boat. But with the fifth album you get to a point where if you want to keep going you have to make a change. I don’t know if Mike was born to be a guitar player. The studio was a tough place for him and we were working too hard to make up for it – we felt like we were cheating ourselves. Four albums is way too fucking long to put up with that. I’m sure he’ll do great things, just not with six-stringed instruments.”
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Shit, that is kind of rude on Raine's part. I wonder what else was happening between Raine and Mike besides Mike "not being a guitar player". ha.
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I can go ahead and confirm that I don't care. It is what it is. Wait for the VH1 special to get your answer.
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Mike who?
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Johnny wrote:Mike who?


Pretty sure its about Raines dislike of Mike Tyson...just a guess though.
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Carson79 wrote:
Johnny wrote:Mike who?


Pretty sure its about Raines dislike of Mike Tyson...just a guess though.


By "Mike" he means the name he went by before Our Lady Peace. That man is gone. He is now "Raine", a whole new persona.

Very deep and thought-provoking stuff.

Of course "Mike" will not be famous as a guitarist. "Mike" is the lead singer of OLP, and quite famous for that. Rarely does anyone comment on his guitar playing skills.
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Corey wrote:
Carson79 wrote:
Johnny wrote:Mike who?


Pretty sure its about Raines dislike of Mike Tyson...just a guess though.


By "Mike" he means the name he went by before Our Lady Peace. That man is gone. He is now "Raine", a whole new persona.

Very deep and thought-provoking stuff.

Of course "Mike" will not be famous as a guitarist. "Mike" is the lead singer of OLP, and quite famous for that. Rarely does anyone comment on his guitar playing skills.


I like your answer better...Raine is/was having an identity crisis.
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You mean "The artist formally known as Mike"? :lol:
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xjsb125 wrote:I can go ahead and confirm that I don't care. It is what it is. Wait for the VH1 special to get your answer.


YOu mean there will be a BEHIND THE MUSIC WITH OLP.. Ha Ha.. One of them has to go to rehab, die or become a has been for that to happen..

and I do not want that happening to any of the guys..

I just posted that to show how even though he is no longer with the band he is still supportive. That is class to me..

As for the cd I love it. I can not get the songs out of my head. Favorite is Next Life, Lost, Feeling LIke A Wave and Energy..I am going to see them again in April so can not wait..

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Poor ape -- doesn't even count as a has been?
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apes always get a bad rap! all that hair and such!
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--oops nvm
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I want to hear them talk about Chris Eacrett. :)

The guy is a mystery. I'm assuming he's some type of mythological creature at the moment.
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My myths are true! There actually is an Ottawa Citizen interview with Chris from around 1995 but its not on the internet!
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MindsOnLoan wrote:I want to hear them talk about Chris Eacrett. :)

The guy is a mystery. I'm assuming he's some type of mythological creature at the moment.

Well he's on that one interview from Much back in 1994 or so... I don't remember if he says anything though
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I think Chris is just a forgotten man because of the success of Clumsy. Bassists usually don't get much glory (believe me, I play bass) and when you only appear in one album and it wasn't the band's most famous album, it's definetly going to be tough to get recognition. Duncan and Chris are two toally different player. I think Chris is more about the riff. He'll play something in the intro that'll get your attention but then he'll play it/have the producer loop it over and over again in the verse (Blind Anniversary, Naveed, Hope, etc.). Duncan is more of a guy who plays the right fills at the right times to alter the depth of the sound. He doesn't really play a specific riff (ok fine, Monkey Brains) but instead the riffs that he plays are throughout the song. Like for Chris, you can evaluate him based on whether you liked the first 10 seconds of a song. For Duncan, you have to listen to the whole song and try to imagine what it would sound like without the bass.

As for Mike, I'm trying to put two and two together here and I'm going to throw this theory out there. Form some of the interviews I've read/heard, Raine usually says something about how they started to do everything live when the hired Bob Rock (as opposed to layered). Then you read what Raine said in that interview that Stong Alibi posted about how Mike wasn't good in the studio. I think that influenced them to fire Mike and hire Bob. Mike probably had to do like 20 takes for every song and this annoyed the rest of the band because they would book some studio time, hoping to get a lot done but end up having to wait and book more time because Mike couldn't put everything together in the time allotted.

Around this time (late 2000) Raine began to fear that OLP was going to burn out because their stuff was being played on the radio like "once every 45 minutes." They had to change their sound in order to be successful but Mike on the other hand, didn't come up with the type of guitar riffs that the rest of the bad felt was good. So I'm guessing Raine probably went to the Columbia Records executives for advice and that's when they recommended Bob Rock because Bob had a lot of "success" with Metallica. The problem was that Mike still made a lot of mistakes and the stuff he was playing just grew old with that band. They wanted to make a comeback with a new sound...sort of like Green Day with American Idiot. Bob and Mike had a lot of tension between them because the way Mike played the guitar was too "complicated" which led to a lot of mistakes.

To cut it short, Mike took way too long, band couldn't take it anymore and they hired Steve because he could do things in less takes. Eventually they just decided to do everything live full time because it was easier and less time consuming (and because Steve could pull it off). They just stopped calling him and telling him when the next rehearsal/studio session was and when the band stops calling you for a period of time, you just naturally figure out that you've been fired. When Heathy was being made, the band also took a long time to do the album, though it wasn't their fault this time...it was Bob's. But once again the album took a long time to make in studio and the band got all grumpy again. Plus, the record label didn't want to give the band a huge budget to make it, which is why they keep saying that they were lucky to enter the music business in the early 90's when labels actually funded bands well. I'm guess OLP paid for a significant portion of the cost overruns on top of the fact that the album didn't sell very well anyways.

Wow that was a long train of thought :freak:
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Unrelated, but adreneline11, do you have a bigger image of your avatar? I've been looking for that one for awhile now.
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