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which one of us would be the foolish one? which one of us would be the fool?
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23. Take my advice: TUPAC IS ALIVE.
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"if the nuremberg trials were applied to us foreign policy, every us president since 1945 would have been hanged." noam chomsky.

...and this is me hanging on / i'd burn our initials in the sun if it would shine / anxiety chokes me like razor wire / if hate's in your heart man, you'll take what you're given / wake up / i'm not the only one / it's never goodbye / go ahead and play dead / if everyone's a casualty, then take your time, there ain't no trouble / these wounds they will not heal / ambition can be a tricky thing / what the hell do i know about rape anyway? / this is not what i hoped for / ain't it so weird how it makes you a weapon / who will be there to tell me how stupid i am? / those living for death will die by their own hand / and it's me that I am spying on / pick up the pieces and live with the stars / hurry up and wait / things have never been so swell / they're always the ones who slowly drift / be great / ...and this is my world.
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The book begins "It is possible, in 1962, for a drive to be the highlight of a family week." How does this opening establish the outlook of early sixties, and how does the author illustrate changing times throughout the course of the story?

Most of the characters in the story are not what they seem. Discuss the deceptions, innocent or nefarious, of the following characters: Jack, Mimi, Henry Froelick, Oskar Fried, Mr. March, Madeleine, and Ricky and Colleen Froelick.

While driving to Centralia, the McCarthys pass a Welcome to Kitchener sign. "Did you know Kitchener used to be called Berlin?" Jack says. "It was settled by the German immigrants, but they changed the name during the First World War" (page 13). How does this scene establish a recurring theme throughout the story?

Why does Jack agree to help Simon? Loyalty to his friend? Loyalty to his country? Or does Jack want to recapture the glory that was taken from him the day his flying career was cut short because of the plane accident?

Jack calls Simon to ask him to speak to someone in authority to help Ricky. Simon reveals that no one else knows about the operation ... and no one else will. Simon says to Jack "Don't shake hands with the Devil before you meet him" (page 410). Why is this ironic, coming from Simon? Where else is the expression used?

White lies and small secrets have a way of snowballing in the story. Jack not telling Mimi about Oskar Fried, one of the first secrets he's ever kept from his wife, leads to many unfortunate events. Discuss the path of destruction behind this, and other secrets in the story.

Why does Mimi have such an adverse reaction to Karen Froelich from the moment she first meets her?

Mimi often tells the children to "think nice thoughts" whenever any serious discussion comes up. What does this do to Madeleine's coping skills?

Despite surviving such hard times as the Depression and World War II, Mimi and Jack and the rest of their generation try to raise their families on pure optimism. Why, and in what ways, does Madeleine resent this as an adult?

What was Simon's motivation for sending Mimi the letter after Jack died?

What does Madeleine smell when she sniffs her hands? What does the odor represent?

Many chapters open with brief passages and excerpts separate from the main story. Why do you think the author uses this narrative technique?

Discuss the real and imagined guilt that burden Madeleine and Jack.
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<table><tr><td>~ Nikki Edwards
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<font color="#3C8C8B">Imagine there's no heaven, it's easy if you try, no hell below us,
above us only sky, imagine all the people, <font color="#FFFFFF">living</font> for today...</font>

<font color="#50B4B3">Imagine there's no countries, it isn't hard to do, nothing to kill or die
for, no religion too, imagine all the people, living <font color="#FFFFFF">life</font> in peace...</font>

<font color="#89CDCC">Imagine no possesions, I wonder if you can, no need for greed or <font color="#FFFFFF">hunger</font>,
a brotherhood of man, imagine all the people, sharing all the <font color="#FFFFFF">world</font>...</font>

<font color="#B1DFDE">You may say I'm a <font color="#FFFFFF">dreamer</font>, but I'm not the only one, I hope
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Hey Yannic... have you read that book?

I was born in Kitchener :)

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Kathy14 wrote:Hey Yannic... have you read that book?

I was born in Kitchener :)

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Nope, and I don't even know what book it is. Apparently it was for my mom's book club meeting last night.
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Prairies:
- wind, salinity, temperature, flood, drought, fire, short growing season, marquis wheat, agri. technology, biotech (energy, fibre, foods, medicine)
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[20:04] <SoozyJ> you'd better be posting my secret santaness Josh
[20:04] <Axtech> hahaha
[20:04] <afealicious> zUz1e jAkKz0n *ler*
[20:04] <SoozyJ> even if you're not my santa :O
[20:04] <SoozyJ> hehehehe
[20:05] <SoozyJ> it goes all funnie
[20:05] <faninor> I don't have enough dollars. :(
Open your eyes to nights and days, you close them up and float away
and somehow inbetween you've got to master lying to yourself
you back the cause, get out of school, you get a job, the job gets you
and somehow every day you end up serving somebody else
now if that ain't panic that you're feeling, then you damn well better start
you can drive it into that head of yours with the hammer in your heart.


And it's alriiiiiiiight now, take the world and make it yours again.
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(19:57:05) spiritualmonster: go check quick
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sonya says:
why are you so interested in stilettos?
"if the nuremberg trials were applied to us foreign policy, every us president since 1945 would have been hanged." noam chomsky.

...and this is me hanging on / i'd burn our initials in the sun if it would shine / anxiety chokes me like razor wire / if hate's in your heart man, you'll take what you're given / wake up / i'm not the only one / it's never goodbye / go ahead and play dead / if everyone's a casualty, then take your time, there ain't no trouble / these wounds they will not heal / ambition can be a tricky thing / what the hell do i know about rape anyway? / this is not what i hoped for / ain't it so weird how it makes you a weapon / who will be there to tell me how stupid i am? / those living for death will die by their own hand / and it's me that I am spying on / pick up the pieces and live with the stars / hurry up and wait / things have never been so swell / they're always the ones who slowly drift / be great / ...and this is my world.
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and i had my iPod!
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The ancient Greeks invented tampons made from lint wrapped around a small piece of wood, recorded in writing by Hippocrates in the fifth century B.C.
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"if the nuremberg trials were applied to us foreign policy, every us president since 1945 would have been hanged." noam chomsky.

...and this is me hanging on / i'd burn our initials in the sun if it would shine / anxiety chokes me like razor wire / if hate's in your heart man, you'll take what you're given / wake up / i'm not the only one / it's never goodbye / go ahead and play dead / if everyone's a casualty, then take your time, there ain't no trouble / these wounds they will not heal / ambition can be a tricky thing / what the hell do i know about rape anyway? / this is not what i hoped for / ain't it so weird how it makes you a weapon / who will be there to tell me how stupid i am? / those living for death will die by their own hand / and it's me that I am spying on / pick up the pieces and live with the stars / hurry up and wait / things have never been so swell / they're always the ones who slowly drift / be great / ...and this is my world.
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