November 28th

Long Jonny · Post by **Long Jonny** » 11/29/2003, 2:33 pm

i bought a dvd player :nod:

only $79.99 at RadioShack!

Sufjan Stevens · Post by **Sufjan Stevens** » 11/29/2003, 6:03 pm

Honestly, why even bother with something completely stupid like this? Did the entire world stop because you didn't buy a CD? No. It didn't. In fact, the Best Buy that I work at almost pulled in $1,000,000 overall on Friday.

By not buying something, you're not proving a point. If you want to make a big stand on capitalism, turn your backyard into a farm and refuse items from the outside capitalistic world. When you do that, then you can feel special. Until then, no one will care about you and your "buy nothing" days.

thirdhour · Post by **thirdhour** » 11/30/2003, 1:01 am

Well, since you all seem to be unable to use a link, here's some help.

Since its launch in the Pacific Northwest twelve years ago, Buy Nothing Day has grown into a worldwide celebration of consumer awareness and simple living. Observed on the day after US Thanksgiving – America's busiest shopping day of the year – the campaign has sparked debate, radio talk shows, TV news items and newspaper headlines around the world.

People in more than thirty countries have made a pact with themselves and, as a personal experiment and public statement, stepped out of the consumer stream for 24 hours. The ways in which people have marked the event worldwide have been as diverse as the participants themselves.

In America, Buy Nothing Day played out in some of the nation's last remaining public spaces - its malls. Costumed groups of revelers managed to slip in and stay long enough to set up tables and suggest alternatives to heavy holiday spending such as giving to charity. Spend time with family and friends, rather than money on them, was the message. Yes it's cliche, but, the things most worth pursuing, and exchanging - love, ritual, attention, sacrifice, freedom-are the things no-one can buy.

Buy Nothing Day just wouldn't be the same if the networks didn't reject our opt-not-to-shop TV uncommercial. Every season, we approach ABC, CBS and NBC to air the spot, and every year they refuse us–claiming our ad asking people not to buy anything threatens "the current economic policy of the United States." It will be interesting to see if this year CNN Headline News, the one show that has taken our money and aired the spot (after their "Dollars and Sense" program since 1996) continues to break ranks.

Most constitutional-law experts aren't bothered by the networks' refusal of the spot, according to Robert Berner in The Wall Street Journal. Networks aren't under any legal obligation to air it. But as Harvard Law School Professor Laurence Tribe remarked, "At least the networks make it clear who butters their bread."

There’s no right way to celebrate Buy Nothing Day. The idea is to do *something* to spark up debate, not shut it down. The shining hope for a revolution in human consciousness lies in the actions of everyday people. And so in the most profound sense, nothing has changed at all.

USELESS I TELL YOU! ITS MADNESS! PEOPLE THAT DONT WANT TO SHOP FOR ONE DAY ARE CRAZY! :roll:

Sufjan Stevens · Post by **Sufjan Stevens** » 11/30/2003, 12:46 pm

Wow, you're really a cunt, you know that?

Joey · Post by **Joey** » 11/30/2003, 1:00 pm

my freakin' ears!

:lol:

Sufjan Stevens · Post by **Sufjan Stevens** » 11/30/2003, 1:06 pm

You know what? It really is useless to not shop for one day. Tell me this. All you holier than thou people that didn't shop (because someone told you not to) on Friday, did you spend time with your families? Honestly. That's the whole point of the day, according to the article. To spend time with family. Now, if you didn't spend time with the family, you're just being a trendy piece of shit and doing what someone told you to.

Joey · Post by **Joey** » 11/30/2003, 1:13 pm

I don't like my family, so I went grocery shopping just to get out of my house :freak:

thirdhour · Post by **thirdhour** » 11/30/2003, 2:13 pm

Rufus Wainwright wrote:You know what? It really is useless to not shop for one day. Tell me this. All you holier than thou people that didn't shop (because someone told you not to) on Friday, did you spend time with your families? Honestly. That's the whole point of the day, according to the article. To spend time with family. Now, if you didn't spend time with the family, you're just being a trendy piece of shit and doing what someone told you to.

Actually, I went with my friend while she went shopping :lol:

Oh, the irony. It was useless for me to celebrate it on friday, because it's not the biggest shopping day of the year, in fact it means nothing. I'm going to try and see if I can not buy anything when its so tempting with all the sales. Its going to be a personal challenge, because I usually do buy something, and I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to not this year. Doug doesn't vote, because he thinks it's morally wrong. I try and buy as little as I can, because that's the lifestyle I choose.Because I choose to have some beleifs different than your's, I'm a cunt. Thank you

Sufjan Stevens · Post by **Sufjan Stevens** » 11/30/2003, 5:15 pm

No, you're a cunt because you patronize me, on top of being a hypocrite.

thirdhour · Post by **thirdhour** » 11/30/2003, 7:37 pm

Care to explain?

I figured that I've been here for long enough, it's about time you hated me :lol:

Sufjan Stevens · Post by **Sufjan Stevens** » 11/30/2003, 7:41 pm

Yes, I would respond to this, but under advisement from the moderators and their private messaging, if I say anything, I'll be banned. Yep.

But please, keep patronizing me, because no matter what someone says to me, if I respond in a negative manner, I will be the one banned, and nothing will be said to the other person. Way to go!

Long Jonny · Post by **Long Jonny** » 11/30/2003, 7:48 pm

Yannic, I don't think you're a cunt :neutral:

thirdhour · Post by **thirdhour** » 11/30/2003, 7:48 pm

PM me with your views then. I'm serious, I really want to know what you have to say, and if they can't deal with that... :wtf:

thirdhour · Post by **thirdhour** » 11/30/2003, 7:50 pm

Long Jon wrote:Yannic, I don't think you're a cunt

Thanks, but I already voted for Johnythan.

Sorry...

Sufjan Stevens · Post by **Sufjan Stevens** » 11/30/2003, 7:50 pm

Heh, you also have to remember that they can read the PM's on here too. There was a big blow up over this over a year ago, rather funny if you think about it. I should just say what I want and get myself banned, for the third time.

Long Jonny · Post by **Long Jonny** » 11/30/2003, 7:51 pm

thirdhour wrote:
Long Jon wrote:Yannic, I don't think you're a cunt

Thanks, but I already voted for Johnythan. Sorry...

Haha! nevermind then!

8-)

happening fish · Post by **happening fish** » 11/30/2003, 7:55 pm

mod's can't read PMs

thirdhour · Post by **thirdhour** » 11/30/2003, 7:55 pm

Rufus Wainwright wrote:Heh, you also have to remember that they can read the PM's on here too. There was a big blow up over this over a year ago, rather funny if you think about it. I should just say what I want and get myself banned, for the third time.

They can read pms? What the fuck?! I didn't know that...

Sufjan Stevens · Post by **Sufjan Stevens** » 11/30/2003, 7:56 pm

But they can get angry over someone typing the word "cunt" once.

And they can also do nothing about a jerk who insults others over the addictions of their parents.

happening fish · Post by **happening fish** » 11/30/2003, 7:58 pm

I wrote you a sincere apology about that. I was hoping you read it....?