Eminem

Fluffy · Post by **Fluffy** » 3/14/2003, 9:19 pm

I never cared for this guy. Waaaay too much airtime on radio stations and all he seemed to do was whine and complain about not being able to take care of his daughter and stuff related to his earlier "troubled" childhood. But I heard his new song "Sing For The Moment" on www.rollingstone.com and it actually is a good song.. I love the lyrics. Then I began to think how stupid I was for not liking the guy and GOOD rap. Not all rap is ritards attempting poetry.. I mean, he actually sings about good stuff not how many hoes or bling bling he's got now like Nelly or Ja Rule. Now that I think about it, Taking Back Sunday does sort of blow

I mean, guitar, bass, drums are talent and stuff but the more I think about about it, the more their lyrics are so stupid compared to other good stuff out there. Like they're all about his ex girlfriends. Yeah, everyone needs a few good songs about that here and there but ALL of them practically are about her. And all of these emo songs are about heart break and love, practically. Yeah, its good when you're in the mood. But I'm not. Saves The Day is still fucking awesome though, but I don't think I like TBS that much anymore. That is the reason why I didn't like OLP because I found that they were really bad. I get obsessed with bands for maybe 2 weeks and then I go onto better things. I am not saying Eminem is a better thing. Bright Eyes is awesome but Desperacidos is just :drool:

Yeah!!!! Go me!!!!! :uh:

.:x:Marissa:x:. · Post by **.:x:Marissa:x:.** » 3/14/2003, 9:28 pm

Yeah, I definitely agree with you. I think that Eminem speaks his mind in his music and isn't afraid to be radical or different, and I admire him for that as an artist. Even though some of his opinions stated are shocking and sometimes rude, he raps about real stuff that I think some ppl can relate to. He is also very ambitious, hard working and makes more money than most people will make in a lifetime...so I don't see why people are hating him.

bovine · Post by **bovine** » 3/14/2003, 9:57 pm

xomarissaxo wrote:so I don't see why people are hating him.

hmm...could it be that he himself hates people simply based on race, sexual orientation, etc, etc, etc...?

:::troy:::

.:x:Marissa:x:. · Post by **.:x:Marissa:x:.** » 3/14/2003, 10:02 pm

bovine wrote:
xomarissaxo wrote:so I don't see why people are hating him.

hmm...could it be that he himself hates people simply based on race, sexual orientation, etc, etc, etc...?

:::troy:::

OK, I do see what you are saying, and I am not saying I agree with him, but at least he is rapping about who he is and what he stands for....and I would rather he do that than be like every other rapper out there who talks about bling bling, hoes and partying...you know? At least he is being real.

Joe Cooler · Post by **Joe Cooler** » 3/14/2003, 10:07 pm

Eminem is a good writer, i just dont agree with what he writes about.

bovine · Post by **bovine** » 3/14/2003, 10:17 pm

Yeah, I know what you mean. Most of the lyrics I've heard from him are ok...I mean thry're not like really openly hateful or anything. But some of the stuff I've heard about him saying...let's just say it turned me off. I'm not a fan of much rap anyway (I do like the stuff that Del the Funky Homosapian did with the Gorillaz, but that's about it unless you count a little bit of "rap-metal").

Just as an example of what an artists comments outside of their music (or other medium) can do to my opinion of them, when I first heard Creed a few years back, I thought they were pretty good. Not something I'd rush out to buy right away, but not bad. Then, one of their members (I forget which one, maybe the bassist...I'm not sure) said that they wrote far better songs than Pearl Jam. That turned me way off of Creed. And it's not just that PJ is one of my favorite bands...it could have been said about a band I didn't like and I would have felt the same way. I just thought that was so arrogant! On top of this, Creed had just come out with their first album and PJ had been writing for about 10 years!

Anyway, I'm kind of rambling, but my point is that if this somewhat minor comment turned me off of a band that I at least somewhat liked, you could imagine how really hateful, bigoted comments would make me feel about an "artist" in a genre of music that I'm not too fond of to begin with.

Don't get me wrong, I feel that everyone should have a right to express their opinion even if it is something I totally disagree with...but I also have the right to not buy (or even like) their stuff for whatever reason I choose.

:::troy:::

Mechanical Thought · Post by **Mechanical Thought** » 3/15/2003, 2:37 pm

xomarissaxo wrote:Yeah, I definitely agree with you. I think that Eminem speaks his mind in his music and isn't afraid to be radical or different, and I admire him for that as an artist.

yea, its too fucking bad that he's been doing it for so long that its gotten very old. you'd think he would have given up that "its me against the world" persona by now.

Neil · Post by **Neil** » 3/15/2003, 2:43 pm

Suck on this a bit: I can't remember where I got this info from but...

A recent survey of over 2000 cd buyers at a downtown NYC store was done to find out who's next release is anticipated more:

Britney vs. Eminem

Over 60% said Britney......because she's changed in an edgy sort of way, but people feel Eminem is becoming a wuss.

WTF?

Mechanical Thought · Post by **Mechanical Thought** » 3/15/2003, 2:44 pm

there are no words for that.

Neil · Post by **Neil** » 3/15/2003, 2:47 pm

I think Eminem has been more "down to earth" as of late.......but its not gonna stay that way.

Do these people seriously think Em's next album is gonna be nothing but a dedication to Halie or something?

Mechanical Thought · Post by **Mechanical Thought** » 3/15/2003, 2:50 pm

its just going to be the same old shit that he has done before.
we shouldn't expect much.

Neil · Post by **Neil** » 3/15/2003, 2:52 pm

but the same old shit is what keeps people saying "WTF" for THAT meaning! haha

not.....OMG, Em's actually praising people besides Halie and Dre.

Oh yeah.....he'll have 50 Cent to praise now too.

Perhaps he and 50C could do a double diss vs. Benzino and Ja Rule

Mechanical Thought · Post by **Mechanical Thought** » 3/15/2003, 2:56 pm

*shudders* 50 Cent. ah yes, Eminem's lab rat. oh man. that man should be shot again for what he is polluting my little brother's brain with.
:lol:

that double diss thing would be frightening though

Neil · Post by **Neil** » 3/15/2003, 3:02 pm

Benzino = old "source" tool

areusad831 · Post by **areusad831** » 3/15/2003, 3:13 pm

how long could you rap about the same thing for?

the guy is a dick no matter which way you look at it.

.:x:Marissa:x:. · Post by **.:x:Marissa:x:.** » 3/15/2003, 4:55 pm

Mechanical Thought wrote:*shudders* 50 Cent. ah yes, Eminem's lab rat. oh man. that man should be shot again for what he is polluting my little brother's brain with.
that double diss thing would be frightening though

Wow, you people really are cruel :uh:

.

xoNoDoubt69 · Post by **xoNoDoubt69** » 3/15/2003, 5:24 pm

areusad831 wrote:how long could you rap about the same thing for?

the guy is a dick no matter which way you look at it.

areusad831 · Post by **areusad831** » 3/15/2003, 7:01 pm

xomarissaxo wrote:
Mechanical Thought wrote:*shudders* 50 Cent. ah yes, Eminem's lab rat. oh man. that man should be shot again for what he is polluting my little brother's brain with.
that double diss thing would be frightening though

Wow, you people really are cruel .

but eminem is so really he tells it like it is. :lol:

.:x:Marissa:x:. · Post by **.:x:Marissa:x:.** » 3/15/2003, 7:07 pm

areusad831 wrote:
xomarissaxo wrote:
Mechanical Thought wrote:*shudders* 50 Cent. ah yes, Eminem's lab rat. oh man. that man should be shot again for what he is polluting my little brother's brain with.
that double diss thing would be frightening though

Wow, you people really are cruel .

but eminem is so really he tells it like it is.

I wasn't talking about Eminem....I was talking about what someone said about 50 cent and how he should be shot again...not cool :uh:

Joey · Post by **Joey** » 3/15/2003, 7:35 pm

I actually like Eminem :nod: