So here we go.
Some of us enjoy hearing Bush speak so we can laugh at him, while others enjoy hearing him so they can follow his strong words. Either way the time has come for his annual grand speech. Recent years have produced such fantastic moments as the "Axis of Evil", "the imminent threat of WMD's in Iraq" and the unforgettable, "You're either with us, or against us."
So to kick it off I figured I would post recent news from yahoo, about the upcoming speech. Enjoy.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1802&e=2&u=/washpost/20040119/ts_washpost/a27978_2004jan18
The Official 2004 State of the Union Address thread...
The Official 2004 State of the Union Address thread...
I can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
"Bush, when asked by ABC's Diane Sawyer why he said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction when intelligence pointed more to the possibility Hussein would obtain such weapons, dismissed the question: "So, what's the difference?""
whether your behind the republican party and the war or not, this is NOT a man you want in office again. He's embarrasing your country, and has turned youf rom a much respected nation into a not-so private joke. Vote someone else who can bring some honor, respect and credibility to your nation
whether your behind the republican party and the war or not, this is NOT a man you want in office again. He's embarrasing your country, and has turned youf rom a much respected nation into a not-so private joke. Vote someone else who can bring some honor, respect and credibility to your nation
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
-
Sufjan Stevens
- Oskar Winner: 2005
- Posts: 6738
- Joined: 3/17/2002, 12:25 pm
- Location: Detroit, MI
Yeah, but the leading Democratic nominee is Howard Dean. If he gets into office, we might not have Bush, but we'll still be fucked. His health care plan is going to fuck the economy and we'll end up in the same rut for 4 years.
And in no way am I endorsing or supporting Bush. Never.
And in no way am I endorsing or supporting Bush. Never.
I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
Yeah, I don't plan on voting Bush unless Dean is the Democratic candidate. I'm on the fence with Clark also. I would like to see either Kerry, Lieberman, and there was one other, but I forget the name. But there is no way I could ever support Dean.
<img src="http://www.clumsymonkey.net/phpBB2/download.php?id=4500">
#define QUESTION (bb || !bb) --william shakespeare
#define QUESTION (bb || !bb) --william shakespeare
i'm voting for the guy who has the best chance to get out bush. i think everyone who dislikes bush should do the same, and not vote for perot types.
Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
-
Sufjan Stevens
- Oskar Winner: 2005
- Posts: 6738
- Joined: 3/17/2002, 12:25 pm
- Location: Detroit, MI
Yeah, I used to be in the same mindset as you, but look at the facts. Howard Dean would be just as bad as Bush. Sure, he wouldn't set up mindless wars, but he'll still rape the economy just as badly as Bush has.
Just look into Howard Dean. Look at his promises and policies, then think about how bad the country will end up being. That might be enough to make you rethink that voting about whomever will take out Bush idea.
And I want to see Clark get the nomination. I figure a real war mind with no political experience would actually work for four years here. We need him to bail us out of the shit Bush has us knee-deep in, not to mention he seems like he'd be a risk-taker and not let his think tank sway decisions. That could be great, or fuck us over big time.
With all that said, if Dean gets the nomination, I'm voting Green.
Just look into Howard Dean. Look at his promises and policies, then think about how bad the country will end up being. That might be enough to make you rethink that voting about whomever will take out Bush idea.
And I want to see Clark get the nomination. I figure a real war mind with no political experience would actually work for four years here. We need him to bail us out of the shit Bush has us knee-deep in, not to mention he seems like he'd be a risk-taker and not let his think tank sway decisions. That could be great, or fuck us over big time.
With all that said, if Dean gets the nomination, I'm voting Green.
I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
-
happening fish
- Oskar Winner: 2006
- Posts: 17934
- Joined: 3/17/2002, 11:22 am
I wouldn't mind seeing Clark get the nod as well.
I wonder whats more popular... a vote against Bush or a vote for him. No opposite candidate, simply a "do you want bush as president? question" think he'd get 50%? I don't know.
I wonder whats more popular... a vote against Bush or a vote for him. No opposite candidate, simply a "do you want bush as president? question" think he'd get 50%? I don't know.
I can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
-
Sufjan Stevens
- Oskar Winner: 2005
- Posts: 6738
- Joined: 3/17/2002, 12:25 pm
- Location: Detroit, MI
I don't think he'd get 50%. That's my honest belief. There are people out there that actually don't want him as president, as well as those mindless folk that just say whatever's the popular national sentiment, so he wouldn't get 50%.
Now, if you put him up against a candidate, that's a different question. Bush would probably win, especially up against Dean. It's pretty sad if you think about it. A good chunk of people here don't like Bush, but most of them wouldnt do anything about it.
Now, if you put him up against a candidate, that's a different question. Bush would probably win, especially up against Dean. It's pretty sad if you think about it. A good chunk of people here don't like Bush, but most of them wouldnt do anything about it.
I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
yeah, i'm all about clark taking out bush, but if need be, i'll go for kerry. dean or bush.....hmmm......that would suck as bad as gore or bush.
Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
hmm the question is, would you vote Dean to make sure bush didn't get back in Alan? We've aready tried one idiot, even if dean is one too, why not try a new one?
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
No matter who wins people will deem him an "idiot" and bitch about him non stop. So the question is who do you want to diagree with and moan and groan about next. Also, wouldn't it be great if the Green party could become a serious contender?
Lukin
_____________
It's called taking advantage, it's how you get ahead in life. -Gob
_____________
It's called taking advantage, it's how you get ahead in life. -Gob
yeah at least in Canada we have THREE parties to choose from, although the NDP won't win the federal election for at least few more decades. They do consistantly win provicial elections, and still manage to get many of their ideas stolen by the liberals
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
still this year there's an election in canada as well, and i'll be walking down to the polls for the first time to waste my vote on the NDP, as most good honet manitobans do........to bad the election is called before we even reach the polls...........sounds fair to me..........damn wetern alienation. 
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
-
starvingeyes
- Oskar Winner: 2007
- Posts: 2009
- Joined: 5/8/2002, 3:44 pm
- Location: california's not very far
don't vote at all. you think it really makes a difference which one of those yahoo's gets into office? honestly, anarchist politics aside, is any one of those jackoff's going to do the country any good at all?
i mean, sure, you vote democrat to get rid of bush, but then do you know what you have in office? *<i>shudder</i>*, a democrat. ugh.
really, do you want one of those looney-tune motherfuckers calling the shots anymore then gw?
i mean, sure, you vote democrat to get rid of bush, but then do you know what you have in office? *<i>shudder</i>*, a democrat. ugh.
really, do you want one of those looney-tune motherfuckers calling the shots anymore then gw?
-
Sufjan Stevens
- Oskar Winner: 2005
- Posts: 6738
- Joined: 3/17/2002, 12:25 pm
- Location: Detroit, MI
Clumsyboy wrote:hmm the question is, would you vote Dean to make sure bush didn't get back in Alan? We've aready tried one idiot, even if dean is one too, why not try a new one?
I'd rather not vote. See, if it came down to either Dean or Bush, I think I'd rather take Bush. Again, by no means will I ever support them, and I can't wait for when Bush dies because I'll know he'll be rotting in hell, but I think he's the lesser of two evils.
With Dean, his ideas seem all fine and dandy to the retarded voter, but his policies are horrible. The economy will be in worse shape than it already is, and well, we'd all be having rought times, to say the least.
Even though Bush is a totalitarian asshole that lies to his people, the wars he's fighting will start fixing the economy. I guess that's the best I can say about the two.
I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
-
areusad831
- Oskar Winner: 2005
- Posts: 5427
- Joined: 4/14/2002, 9:40 pm
- Location: Palmerton, PA