It's pretty sad. It's a time where yor forced to play by the record company rules, and conform to a more bland comercial taste. OR You'll be un-sucessful, dropped and largely ignored.
Oh and the new "Punk" revolution is non-existant as a real Punk, or Rock Revolution, its just a Pop fad with spiky hair and a skate board.
Anyone depressed about the sorry state of Rock?
Anyone depressed about the sorry state of Rock?
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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Sufjan Stevens
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Or the good bands will stick to independant labels, and the people inclined to listen to good music will find them, then there will be a large buzz around the band, then they will blow up in England, then make it big here. It happens more than you think.
Anyways, why do we need to go to concerts and have to cope with little shitheads kicking their way up to the front? If my favorite bands stay independant, then I am not going to shed a tear. I don't want to put up with those drunk frat boys telling the lead singer to take his shirt off and the little girls with their blood curdling shrieks and their lack of pubic hair, thank you very much. They can keep listening to Dave Matthews for all I care.
Oh whoopie. Here comes the whole punk discussion. Let's face it, there are hardly any true punk bands around now. We have Propaghandi, Crass, and Anti-Flag, and AF is trying to sell out fast with their radio songs and bullshit.
And here's another thing. Maybe it's people like you that make any band that has fast guitars and guys with short hair classified as a punk band. I don't see Alkaline Trio labeling themselves as a punk band, but lots of people call them one, and people like you try to pick the band apart for a label you gave them. Wow, just because you have the craptastic bands like Good Charlotte and Sum 41 out there calling themselves punk doesn't mean that every band that uses power chords think they're punk. So just don't mention the word "punk" ever again, because you call bands that, then turn around and bitch how they aren't.
Anyways, why do we need to go to concerts and have to cope with little shitheads kicking their way up to the front? If my favorite bands stay independant, then I am not going to shed a tear. I don't want to put up with those drunk frat boys telling the lead singer to take his shirt off and the little girls with their blood curdling shrieks and their lack of pubic hair, thank you very much. They can keep listening to Dave Matthews for all I care.
Oh whoopie. Here comes the whole punk discussion. Let's face it, there are hardly any true punk bands around now. We have Propaghandi, Crass, and Anti-Flag, and AF is trying to sell out fast with their radio songs and bullshit.
And here's another thing. Maybe it's people like you that make any band that has fast guitars and guys with short hair classified as a punk band. I don't see Alkaline Trio labeling themselves as a punk band, but lots of people call them one, and people like you try to pick the band apart for a label you gave them. Wow, just because you have the craptastic bands like Good Charlotte and Sum 41 out there calling themselves punk doesn't mean that every band that uses power chords think they're punk. So just don't mention the word "punk" ever again, because you call bands that, then turn around and bitch how they aren't.
I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
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who cares? If you like the music, listen to it, if you don't like it then don't listen to it. Simple.
I can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
"It's a great thing when you realize you still have the ability to surprise yourself. Makes you wonder what else you can do that you've forgotten about"
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unfortunately, there will always be a "sorry" state of rock if you adhere unbendingly to ideals of what music should be. there will always be music patrons of varying opinions and there is no form of music less valid than another if there is someone capable of rationalizing the techniques and theories involved therein (which there always will be). this, of course, excludes blatantly stealing things from other artists, since it was never originally their creation to begin with *cough*vanillaice*cough*.
<3 Mademoiselle Pamplemousse
~The world would be a better place if only more things were made out of statue~
~The world would be a better place if only more things were made out of statue~
Idealist basically summed up what i was going to say to Alan. As for the fact that there's still good music on indeprendent labels i agree with you, but it's depressing to see old great bands falling apart. And it's sad to see no label support for any art. I've watched more then a few of my favorite bands fade away recently, or else they're doen something much worse then fade away, they've pulled a OLP. It's depressing because lots of these bands were at one time popular and exhalted, now they don't get the money they deserve. I agree that i wouldn't want my favorite bands blowing up and becoming the next big thing like nickelback, but i also don't want to see my favorite bands have to call it quits because of lack of funds. Many of my favorite bands can't even afford to replace instruments or get need gear fixed, or even tour in some cases
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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To be honest, I dont see rock in a sorry state right now. Every band can't make it big, and labels pick up the ones they are betting on. This is always going to happen and always will. If you don't want to take what they give you on a silver platter like most radio stations, then don't. I haven't met someone that couldn't find music that suited their personality, and why shouldn't they? I have seen Indy music become more and more excessable in the past few years and its created a scene of its own. There are always going to be stupid trends that you don't like and thats fine. But the people that like the stupid trends probably don't like what you listen to either.
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Goodbye you liar,
Well you sipped from the cup but you don't own up to anything
Then you think you will inspire
Take apart your head
(and I wish I could inspire)
Take apart your demons, then you add it to the list.
Goodbye you liar,
Well you sipped from the cup but you don't own up to anything
Then you think you will inspire
Take apart your head
(and I wish I could inspire)
Take apart your demons, then you add it to the list.
no. it's some of you people that think this that make me depressed. there is so much amazing music out there and there are so many amazing people struggling to make sure it stays that way. it's so inspirational and overwhelming. it's there. you just have to listen for it.
we are the brand new beatniks. we are the down and outers.
we are the bleeding hearts, beating syncopated, broken rhythm.
our speed is often break neck. we need to slow it down.
tired of being sleepless. tired of being broken.
we are the bleeding hearts, beating syncopated, broken rhythm.
our speed is often break neck. we need to slow it down.
tired of being sleepless. tired of being broken.
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JEFF?!?!?!?!?!?
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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Clumsyboy wrote:. It's depressing because lots of these bands were at one time popular and exhalted, now they don't get the money they deserve. I agree that i wouldn't want my favorite bands blowing up and becoming the next big thing like nickelback, but i also don't want to see my favorite bands have to call it quits because of lack of funds. Many of my favorite bands can't even afford to replace instruments or get need gear fixed, or even tour in some cases
...and that is life according to Darwin. I'm surprised more independant bands aren't utilizing the internet for the revolutionary marketing tool that it is. Unfortunately, in this situation, one is faced with reality. If you want to get paid for making music, you have to be heard. This always involves some kind of sacrifice, and if you aren't willing to sacrifice your integrity, you are then forced to use your intuition to come up with a creative way of getting your material to the masses. Some people are simply better at this than others.
<3 Mademoiselle Pamplemousse
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Sufjan Stevens
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It's funny. This conversation I had might interest a few of you people, mostly Stephanie.
My friend Paul and I were talking to random people about music, and the topic of Elton John came up. We were talking about how once Elton John and Billy Joel die, there's no one to carry the piano rock scene. I said Tori Amos and Ben Folds, but think about it, they just aren't popular enough. Amos is probably one of the most under-rated musicians of our time, because there's so many times she should have blown up and been the next person to carry the genre. John and Joel are bound to die anytime now, and once they do, an amazing scene just dies off. It's rather sad, if you take the time to think of it.
My friend Paul and I were talking to random people about music, and the topic of Elton John came up. We were talking about how once Elton John and Billy Joel die, there's no one to carry the piano rock scene. I said Tori Amos and Ben Folds, but think about it, they just aren't popular enough. Amos is probably one of the most under-rated musicians of our time, because there's so many times she should have blown up and been the next person to carry the genre. John and Joel are bound to die anytime now, and once they do, an amazing scene just dies off. It's rather sad, if you take the time to think of it.
I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
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not to mention John fucked himself up pretty bad on drugs back when he was younger
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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