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Did you have a upper-middle or upper class youth?

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People be honest with yourselves, you don't need to tell anyone if you had a wealthy up bringing, but how many conserivitives here had a fairly easy wealthy or at least upper-middle class, upbringing? also click yes if your parents were also conservitive.
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I'm not ashaimed, I'll admit I've had it rather easy. My parents don't have rolls you'd think they'd have such as a lawyer, doctor, etc.
My Mom works for the state of Minnesota (ok, that's rather decent) and my dad was a truck driver for about twenty years. He busted his ass and worked his way up to almost 55,000 a year.
I was brought up learning from my parents, of course, and also learning on my own. I had a couple of rather strong mentors in high school, teachers, who also taught me a lot. Guess that's where a lot of my conservitism came from.
I'm working on my public media actions right now, going to be working on reelections for Dubya Bush, and I hope to eventually be elected into public office. Not shooting for anything HUGE (never for president, it scares me to be in charge of all of you :lol:) but I hope to eventually have a role in the public where I can make decisions that will hopefully help peoples lives beyond my years.
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my father founded an insurance brokerage 15 years ago and it has grown into a rather modestly sized company, allowing my youth to have been pretty easy (for example, my parents are paying for my education)

my father is a conservative, my mother is politicaly ambivalent, with right wing leanings.

i, obviously, am not a conservative.
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i am in the midst of a wealthy upbringing, i guess you could say. I never really think of these things very often, though my mom has mentioned it before. I mean, my mom is quite the Real Estate Agent, she works hard and i admire her for that. I guess, though, that my dad is the one who actually brings in an abundance of the revenue. He is a Chartered Accountant and works for a large company, so he gets quite the amount, not inculding the annual bonus and such. so, i guess i could be considered "upper middle class".
its so weird thinking about something like this. nice idea for a topic :nod:

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Post by lora »

i have it very easy. however, i don't know why. my parents don't have very flamboyant jobs or anything. :freak: my dad is a farmer-esque type, and my mom works at a manor.
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Post by starseed_10 »

yes... upper-middle class i'd say.

Maybe i'm missing something here, but what does this have to do with parents being conservative?
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It kinda sounded to me like he's saying if you're in the upper-middle class or upper class, then you're most like conservative and he wants backings :lol:
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Post by One-Eye »

My family was lower middle class until the time I was about 10 years old, when my mom got a job and my dad started making more money. Since then we've been something like upper-middle-middle class.

I am very lucky. I recognize that, and thus I am not a conservative.
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ummm ouch! :lol: "and thus I am not a conservative" doesn't fit rather well with the statement included in that sentence.
Perhaps its just me, but that kinda sounds like a straight diss....
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i come from the exact same situation as Aerin, i went from lower middle class, to somewhere between upper and just plain middle class, the point of this is just verifing that many conservitives are either from waelthy up bringings, or have parents influences. I'm not using it against them just concreting that many conservitives are the well to do. I myself was not even aware of my parents political ideology untill last year, they did not want to influence my thinking in anyway, just as i've never had any religon put on me, even though when my dad was younger he did attend a church. They left it all neutral so i could make entirey my own decisions.
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"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

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"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good

I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.

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I agree that a lot of conservatives seem to be wealthy people.
My parents are liberal, as am I, but not necessarily because of their influence. My dad's a doctor, mom used to be a nurse but she doesnt work much... so i guess that makes me somewhere towards the upperclass.
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it's mostly because the poor NEED government help such as healthcare and education and such other things, they can't afford to pay for there own schooling or medicare, so how can anything be fair in a world were the people with money have such benefits and the people without are trapped in there class. Something to think about for the anrchists that want to see government gone, check up on how much it costs to pay for one child from K-12 + university, not to mention medical bills are the leading cause of bankruptcy in america, i can't even imagine paying $20,000 to have a baby, or paying for a life saving surgery.
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good

"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good

I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.

"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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Post by Automatic_Flowers »

starseed_10 wrote:I agree that a lot of conservatives seem to be wealthy people.
My parents are liberal, as am I, but not necessarily because of their influence. My dad's a doctor, mom used to be a nurse but she doesnt work much... so i guess that makes me somewhere towards the upperclass.


hey brett, does ur dad own that pharmacy on howard? (i think thats the road)
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Well... I'm not sure how to answer this question... When I remember back it seems as though I had everything I needed... but when you look at the numbers... it wouldn't really appear that way.

Before I was born my parents lived in a trailer. By the time I was born and into my early childhood my mother was a waitress and my dad worked in a factory. My mom has nothing more than a high school degree. My dad's highest educational achievement was a degree at a community college which he received after he already had 4 kids. That's right, I have 3 brothers. My father was eventually layed off and my mother's waitressing job was the only income. Eventually my dad landed a job selling cars. My mother somehow got a travel agent job. My dad also landed a travel agent job a few years down the road. But before all this I had to have free lunches at school because my parents fell below the earning bracket.

In the long wrong they did ok, but far from upper-class. I had to work my ass off to get where I am, and I have some loans I'll be paying off for a long time. My parents just gave me enough and everything they could to help me get here.
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Post by Automatic_Flowers »

i dont know what my parents are...theres an interesting conversation to bring up at dinner though

I'm with lora... i have it easy but i dont know why lol cause my parents dont have huge, important jobs, but i knwo im middle class, i dunno about upper.. maybe
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Post by One-Eye »

clumsy_congressman wrote:ummm ouch! :lol: "and thus I am not a conservative" doesn't fit rather well with the statement included in that sentence.
Perhaps its just me, but that kinda sounds like a straight diss....


:lol:

Not necessarily. I just have this weird thing called empathy for my fellow human that seems to be lacking in conservative philosophy, not necessarily conservatives themselves.
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Post by mosaik »

we're upper middle class and i started out my political thinking on the right wing. but i was never a full on conservative, i've always considered reason and logic to be my primary motivating factors.

finding Rand was just the thing i needed.
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I'm more of a "centrist". Take this and find out what you are:

http://www.self-gov.org/quiz.html
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When I was little, we used to live in a trailer and I was strictly a K-Mart kid untill the 8th grade. 8th grade I discovered the mall, and dad went from being a TV repairman to some really technical field engineer type job, which increased the cashflow. I lived in the same trailer on a half acre of land up untill 2 years ago when we moved out into a 4 bedroom house in the middle of suburbia. Since then dad got a promotion to tech support, and he gets paid for sitting on his ass and playing video games all day, answering the phone once in a while when the field engineers have questions about stuff. Last year, our family made 103 K a year (keep in mind we have 5 members in our family, so its really not that much). Since then, momma lost her job and dad is getting retarded about certain things we used to take for granted, like long distance phone calls and such. But now I have a job and I pay them for my gas and insurance. Whatever I have left I keep. Too bad my manager is cutting back on everyone's hours resulting in my usual bimonthly check of $200 being cut to $160.

After all that I must say we are middle middle class.
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Post by xoNoDoubt69 »

Um, we were prob upper middle...My dad owned his own business which was connected to our house and my mom was on town council so we pretty much had everything we wanted...We have one of the biggest houses in the town but Our town is kind of crappy now but when i was growing up it was alot better..
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