amerikans for one world government

[mosaik]

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

Didn't I say that the united states wanted to increase it's sphere of influence to cover the world? didn't i say that they believe they are the final moral arbiter and they know what's best for the planet?

here they are ADMITTING IT. The members of this group aren't just your garden variety right wingers, either. Dick Cheney is a member. So is Rumsfield.

this is practically a website for the NWO. now tell me it doesn't exist. now tell me you trust these crazy mother fuckers. come on, i dare you.

we are fucked. and you don't care.

[Dr. Hobo]

Didn't I say that the united states wanted to increase it's sphere of influence to cover the world? didn't i say that they believe they are the final moral arbiter and they know what's best for the planet?

i couldnt agree with you more on this.. as far as the statement:

we are fucked. and you don't care.

i dont agree with that.. i do care.. and we are fucked.. but accepting or saying we are fucked is one thing.. suggesting something we should do about it is more important.. what would you suggest?

as far as "taking sides" goes.. im on yours btw

[mosaik]

what do i suggest? i suggest a nationwide labor strike. i suggest that people stop voting. i suggest that the men & women in the armed forces refuse to fight.

i suggest you quit paying taxes and buy a gun. i suggest you never trust anyone who tells you "i'm with the government"

i suggest we all get ourselves unplugged from the matrix and put a stop to this insanity.

[Bandalero]

America's role in the world.

as in there has to be a world in witch America is a part of, not the whole of it....

[areusad831]

people are brain washed and will never accept your logic even though it makes sense.

[mosaik]

reno you're trying to tell me that website doesn't read "we want to be the puppet master who pulls the strings of the world"?

you really believe that? then answer the question, my friend:

W H Y ?

i need to understand.

[Corey]

That is an awfully Liberal organization.

[Bandalero]

i tell you what, i didn't let the whole page load up completely. (fucking dial-up) so i'll finish washing my clothes here and then i'll go to the computerlab and check that site out.

[starvingeyes]

"I don't think it's true to say that we want to keep it [Bilderberg] out [of the public consciousness], we never wanted to get it in. We don't encourage people to mention it in the mainstream press because we don't encourage idle speculation about what we do. ...... We forbid individual attendees from giving press meetings at our conferences, and we do that not because we're secrecy mad, but because we want to control the politicians who come." Martin Taylor - Secretary General, Bilderberg - interviewed by Jon Ronson for the UK Channel 4 TV programme 'Secret Rulers of the World' transmitted 27Jun01

seriously. that doesn't bother you?

[Solidarity 9-6347]

its official NOW the world is going to hell...oh yeah and our handbasket says "made in the USA"

[the android]

I still think it's hilarious how American flags always say "Made in China."

Sweet, sweet irony.

[faninor]

what do i suggest? i suggest a nationwide labor strike. i suggest that people stop voting. i suggest that the men & women in the armed forces refuse to fight.

i suggest you quit paying taxes and buy a gun. i suggest you never trust anyone who tells you "i'm with the government"

i suggest we all get ourselves unplugged from the matrix and put a stop to this insanity.

Wow, your posts are getting better. From what I've read, this New American Century thing is insanity. Your suggestions are to stop cooperating with the government. That is exactly like boycotting everything French because they won't support a war. I don't believe it's a logical step to solve the problem.

I understand that you're against government, and what you're bringing up here is one thing that doesn't belong within the government. Why do things like this outweigh everything good that governments do? Standard of living can change a lot with how things are run, and having a good government will improve it. I wouldn't be surprised if having a government like yours adds years to your life expectency.

You say we should unplug ourselves. You're only looking at the Other Place and seeing that you don't belong there. You should also look at the Reservation. You don't belong there either. I think you see government as the Other Place, and so you must think without out it you would be able to find that medium where you could stand to live. I see anarchy as the Reservation and believe government is the tool for staying somewhere within the medium where I can live.

How do you see the world functioning if we do not allow ourselves to be governed? How do we keep from being the Savage Reservation? Please point me to a book or something that offers a solution to preserving the good things that government brings about without actually having a government.

[mosaik]

read atlas shrugged.

and how about a little more faith in your species.

[Solidarity 9-6347]

ayn rand is a pretentious, manipulative hobag.

i believe in individualism but i also believe that as an individual, i have the right to decide to help others, not necessarily as a communal act though. that is my rational opinion. from my perspective, this would not be considered being a second-hander.

i agree though, read atlas shrugged, not that it will sway you one way or the other but it will help you piece together your own philosophy.

[mosaik]

Ayn Rand as it turns out didn't practice what she preached

but atlas shrugged is still a fantastic philosophical novel. and the principles behind objectivism/individualism/capitalism as she outlined them in that novel are great.

[Sufjan Stevens]

ayn rand is a pretentious, manipulative hobag.

i believe in individualism but i also believe that as an individual, i have the right to decide to help others, not necessarily as a communal act though. that is my rational opinion. from my perspective, this would not be considered being a second-hander.

i agree though, read atlas shrugged, not that it will sway you one way or the other but it will help you piece together your own philosophy.

I couldn't possibly agree with you more.

[Capo]

Ugh, you people are soo against our government yet if you protested like this in Iraq...against saddam, Saddam would have you all killed.

You should love your freedom to say what you want here and not criticize the government which lets you speak you mind.

[mosaik]

You should love your freedom to say what you want here and not criticize the government which lets you speak you mind.

you know, maybe you're right.

after all, we do have freedom of speech.

questioning the government is unpatriotic. we should stop it.

right?

[Capo]

Wow, your posts are getting better. From what I've read, this New American Century thing is insanity. Your suggestions are to stop cooperating with the government. That is exactly like boycotting everything French because they won't support a war. I don't believe it's a logical step to solve the problem.

I understand that you're against government, and what you're bringing up here is one thing that doesn't belong within the government. Why do things like this outweigh everything good that governments do? Standard of living can change a lot with how things are run, and having a good government will improve it. I wouldn't be surprised if having a government like yours adds years to your life expectency.

You say we should unplug ourselves. You're only looking at the Other Place and seeing that you don't belong there. You should also look at the Reservation. You don't belong there either. I think you see government as the Other Place, and so you must think without out it you would be able to find that medium where you could stand to live. I see anarchy as the Reservation and believe government is the tool for staying somewhere within the medium where I can live.

How do you see the world functioning if we do not allow ourselves to be governed? How do we keep from being the Savage Reservation? Please point me to a book or something that offers a solution to preserving the good things that government brings about without actually having a government.

*applause*

[Capo]

You should love your freedom to say what you want here and not criticize the government which lets you speak you mind.

you know, maybe you're right.

after all, we do have freedom of speech.

questioning the government is unpatriotic. we should stop it.

right?

Well, its funny to see you guys talk about how wrong and bad our government is yet here you are using your freedom of speech, did you know that if freedom of speech didnt exist we probably wouldnt be able to argue with you right now, maybe you should think before you start saying that a life or anarchy would be much better than a life with government. Because for what your typing right now, you could be killed for if there were no known rules, not by me, but bye someone who finds what you say against there beliefs, morals, values, and ethics.