A thread about Toronto

Johnny · Post by **Johnny** » 8/26/2005, 10:50 pm

All folks, as some of you people know, I am planning on going to school in Toronto in the fall of 2006. Basically what I need is info about the city and suburbs as well as places to live and the public transit system. One thing I could use right now is a map. :freak:

Any help is appriciated. :sugar:

superrgirll · Post by **superrgirll** » 8/26/2005, 10:51 pm

live in mississauga. with me!!!!!!!!!!

don't ask why · Post by **don't ask why** » 8/26/2005, 10:53 pm

scared yet?

http://www.torontosun.com/News/Columnists/Warmington_Joe/2005/08/26/1188301.html

When it comes to the look of downtown Toronto these days, does anybody care?

There is a so-called homeless guy sleeping on Yonge St. with his hand straight out ready for change.

It can't be easy keeping your palm open -- ready for any coins that may drop -- in between snores.

Meanwhile, lots of sections of our great city have become a cesspool.

You know it's true. The sad part of crime is it all starts with what they call low-level stuff. Break and enters and stolen property, etc. You don't even report that stuff to the police anymore.

There's no point.

The problem is when you ignore that stuff, you've already given the criminals room to move. Welcome to Toronto.

This is a city which has become rife with crime -- murders, yes, but a lot of other less newsworthy stuff too.

A lot of people have had their houses broken into, or their cars.

I have lost cameras for someone's hit of crack. But no one cares.

The truth is, because of our lack of interest, we have lowered the bar for the criminals. We give them that street stuff for free.

And they know it. I saw a guy recently steal a bike in broad daylight on Yonge by simply dropkicking it, forcing the lock to buckle. He calmly rode off, laughing.

He knew nothing would happen.

The poor cops from 52 Division were embarrassed to tell me "it was on the wrong side of the street" and they called in 51 Division.

" 'Up yours' is what that thief was saying to your mayor and police chief," Billy Gorta, a crime editor at the New York Post and a retired NYPD captain said on a recent visit.

The Big Apple cracked down on "low level" crime and the place has not looked back. We ought to try that.

Instead we see a lot of that "up yours" attitude here. There is a guy named Gil in front of my neighbourhood Sun box who says "pay the tax" before I can get my paper.

If you want a paper, you pay him.

The homeless own the parks too. I saw Han having a drink of mouthwash in Allen Gardens. Not a pretty sight or smell. I feel sorry for him -- as I do the family nearby eating their Harvey's burgers.

I regularly see tourists shaking their heads at how downtown looks. Why can't we do better? Don't we have more respect for ourselves and our city?

The lazy slugs and criminals realize nothing can be done, just as the murderous gunmen know they are the boss.

Meanwhile, it's still zero tolerance on parking infractions -- another Gotcha tax by the Parking Assassins. Friendly courier driver D.J. Bergin was telling me he's actually had Blue Hornets follow his truck to help them get the quotas the politicians deny exist.

Disgraceful. Bergin's job is already stressful enough without adding being hunted to it.

An Ottawa couple got whacked with a $60 ticket at the King Edward Hotel last night while checking in. Zero tolerance. But I guess nobody cares.

The homeless guy peeing in the park nearby did not get fined, nor do the break-and-enter artists or drug dealers regularly on King St.

And it's insulting that the Blue Hornets don't have to follow the same rules.

I have pictures of one officer parking illegally and going into a 7-Eleven for a snack.

Not wanting him to get in trouble I don't run the picture.

It's called using discretion, something they ought to try. Wonder if he'd extend me the same courtesy?

It's actually the weak social worker politicians who are to blame for their aggressiveness. Hungry to get our money, politicians are as bad as that sleeping guy with his hand out.

Surely there is somebody else out there who thinks it's time to get this place cleaned up?

Maybe we should put the parking assassins in charge --you know, zero tolerance. But seriously, I'd actually retrain those parking officers to respond to some of this "low level" crime.

At least it would be a street level response to it -- and far better than the far bigger crime of nailing a pregnant woman on her way to see her doctor.

Maybe for our own future we better start talking about who could replace Mayor Useless, a massive failure in these areas who I wish would take his darned vacation.

I saw Julian Fantino on Yonge St. the other night and although he's the province's top emergency management guy now, I still think he, as mayor, would have the strength to go at the criminals and give our city the scrubbing it so badly needs.

Or does anybody care?

superrgirll · Post by **superrgirll** » 8/26/2005, 10:54 pm

not all areas of toronto are bad. there are some good areas

don't ask why · Post by **don't ask why** » 8/26/2005, 10:57 pm

when i visited a couple years back there were homeless people and all in the downtown areas. but every city has its good and bad parts.

Johnny · Post by **Johnny** » 8/26/2005, 10:58 pm

I wanna live with loru!

superrgirll · Post by **superrgirll** » 8/26/2005, 11:02 pm

yay!!

Johnny · Post by **Johnny** » 8/26/2005, 11:03 pm

We're gonna have to find a cool place to live. :nod:

superrgirll · Post by **superrgirll** » 8/26/2005, 11:06 pm

yes. in mississauga. close to utm.

don't ask why · Post by **don't ask why** » 8/26/2005, 11:13 pm

superrgirll wrote:yes. in mississauga. close to utm.

do you know if inco is in mississauga?

superrgirll · Post by **superrgirll** » 8/26/2005, 11:13 pm

Johnny · Post by **Johnny** » 8/26/2005, 11:14 pm

Well, I dont mind commuting...as long as I can find a train/subway.

don't ask why · Post by **don't ask why** » 8/26/2005, 11:16 pm

eh too much effort.

nikki4982 · Post by **nikki4982** » 8/26/2005, 11:26 pm

don't ask why wrote:I regularly see tourists shaking their heads at how downtown looks. Why can't we do better? Don't we have more respect for ourselves and our city?

What's wrong with how Toronto looks? Cleanest city *I've* ever been to.

don't ask why · Post by **don't ask why** » 8/26/2005, 11:27 pm

hey that's not my opinion
it's some dude's in toronto.

i've only been to t.o. once, and to be honest, it was pretty nice. (but van city's definitely nicer, albeit the night life is better in to)

Johnny · Post by **Johnny** » 8/26/2005, 11:28 pm

I can't wait go there!

Rusty · Post by **Rusty** » 8/26/2005, 11:29 pm

nikki4982 wrote:
don't ask why wrote:I regularly see tourists shaking their heads at how downtown looks. Why can't we do better? Don't we have more respect for ourselves and our city?

What's wrong with how Toronto looks? Cleanest city *I've* ever been to.

That's cause you're a jersey girl. But yes Toronto is pretty damn clean. It just gets a bad rep.

nikki4982 · Post by **nikki4982** » 8/26/2005, 11:33 pm

Canadians are weird. Toronto's ridiculously clean. It's like Disney World or something.

xoNoDoubt69 · Post by **xoNoDoubt69** » 8/26/2005, 11:49 pm

you people need to come to philly or camden if you think toronto isn't clean

don't ask why · Post by **don't ask why** » 8/26/2005, 11:49 pm

but a lot of people in t.o. have guns. crazy gun-toting canadians.