Bob Rock

sandsleeper · Post by **sandsleeper** » 6/24/2002, 3:42 pm

well i felt like the reasoning behind the whole not thanking bob rock was just cause obviously they thank him and his name is all over the sleeve anyway. they didn't thank lanni on any of the albums he produced, i dont think so anyway. i think it was good of them to include his name on this album though, since he played a major role helping them become what they are now.

Corey · Post by **Corey** » 6/24/2002, 3:52 pm

exactly.. there's no need to thank the producer. His pay is thanks enough

sandsleeper · Post by **sandsleeper** » 6/24/2002, 5:47 pm

yes indeedydoo, i'm sure he's getting quite a huge chunk of the profits.

AmishMouse · Post by **AmishMouse** » 6/24/2002, 5:52 pm

Yeah and hopefully hes getting a notice that they don't want anything to do with him in the future!

happening fish · Post by **happening fish** » 6/24/2002, 7:53 pm

Sorry mouse, but that's probably highly unlikely since they're raking in millions of dollars :roll:

superboots · Post by **superboots** » 6/24/2002, 7:56 pm

So, you don't think they'll go back to Lanni...I don't know, it could be a possibility...who knows?

Sufjan Stevens · Post by **Sufjan Stevens** » 6/24/2002, 8:03 pm

Even though with Lanni they made greta music, you have to be realistic. You can make masterpieces and have them fall upon deaf ears, but OLP are only human. If they make their music "worse" and get money for it, they will take the money. You would do the same thing too, so don't be so hard on OLP if they stick with Bob Rock. It's what they wanna do.

Corey · Post by **Corey** » 6/24/2002, 9:11 pm

I don't see a problem with the music they produced with Bob Rock. If Arnold Lanni was the producer and Mike Turner played on Gravity and it sounded exactly the same, everybody would be praising it. It's all a bunch of bias bull crap.

Sufjan Stevens · Post by **Sufjan Stevens** » 6/25/2002, 12:35 pm

I honestly don't think Gravity would be the same at all...this record just seems to straight forward and rock-like than anything Lanni produced. The lyrics would probably be the same, if not, close, but the music would be different. Either way, I would love the album...

BlisterSWOT · Post by **BlisterSWOT** » 6/26/2002, 12:04 am

THis is indeed a more straight fwd CD were as all tehre CDs are diffrent this is the Straight Fwd CD. but if Bob Rock has any influence on there next CD i will kill him with my bare Hands

PS. But i do love this CD but could do without future influence from Bob

Corey · Post by **Corey** » 6/26/2002, 6:30 am

It's funny how everyone is like "I hate what Bob Rock did to Gravity but I LOVE the CD!!!"

It's like you're all afraid to admit you like the new stuff. Oh no! You might be accused of liking something popular! God forbid.

happening fish · Post by **happening fish** » 6/26/2002, 10:20 am

One thing that I think NEVER would have made it to record with Lanni was that goddamn "she wishes she was a dancer/and that she'd never heard of cancer" line. It's such a FORCED rhyme! I cringe every time. I've never heard anything like that from them before and I think it's probably Lanni who weeded them out from Raine's lyrics :freak:

Corey · Post by **Corey** » 6/26/2002, 11:08 am

cuz you know lanni so well and all

happening fish · Post by **happening fish** » 6/26/2002, 11:11 am

please, corey, it's just a guess based on the fact that there have never been any terrible rhymes like that before and you know it.

Corey · Post by **Corey** » 6/26/2002, 11:22 am

"I'm a freak, a star, I'm everything you are"

"Why eieieie yeah superman's dead
Eieieie yeah is it in my head
Eieieie yeah we'll just laugh instead"

"Can you see her standing there
And well she's trying to find just anywhere"

"Nobody left in line
No one to make you shine"

one from each album... how are any of these any different?

AmishMouse · Post by **AmishMouse** » 6/26/2002, 11:29 am

I dislike the poppiness and simplified lyrics on this album but Corey does have a point with the rhyming.

happening fish · Post by **happening fish** » 6/26/2002, 11:44 am

i just dislike the dancer/cancer rhyme more than anything i've ever heard, okay Corey? Would you stop trying to beat me into the ground? Does it make you feel like a big man? :grr:

Odin · Post by **Odin** » 6/26/2002, 12:22 pm

CoreyRIT wrote:"I'm a freak, a star, I'm everything you are"

"Why eieieie yeah superman's dead
Eieieie yeah is it in my head
Eieieie yeah we'll just laugh instead"

"Can you see her standing there
And well she's trying to find just anywhere"

"Nobody left in line
No one to make you shine"

one from each album... how are any of these any different?

The rhymes on these examples are more subtle, unlike the "Innocent" line which stands out really much. Besides, the "Innocent" line was pointed out by defying_gravity first, and that makes it more noticable.

It's bad, I'm sure Raine can do better. That's why Raine never attempted on putting out "Innocent" when he was working with Lanni, because he knows that Lanni and Mike will not like this.

Corey · Post by **Corey** » 6/26/2002, 12:35 pm

happeninfish wrote:i just dislike the dancer/cancer rhyme more than anything i've ever heard, okay Corey? Would you stop trying to beat me into the ground? Does it make you feel like a big man? :grr:

alright, take it easy.

I never said you had to like that line. I'm just sick of people acting like Gravity would be "perfect" if Lanni produced it. Lanni was a great producer, yes, but you don't know what he would have done. You don't know what real influence Bob Rock has had. None of us know except for the members of the band. You gave your opinion, and then I gave you mine. Don't berate me because I have a different opinion.

curtman16 · Post by **curtman16** » 6/26/2002, 1:50 pm

AmishMouse wrote:I dislike the poppiness and simplified lyrics on this album but Corey does have a point with the rhyming.

I agree here too, but I think the whole point of the simplified lyrics was to appeal to a wider fan base that were alienated by the complicated lyrics of happiness and sm.