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Posted: 9/25/2004, 3:48 am
by Soozy
Chanandler Bong wrote:No one can muzzle a dog when its warm out. Thats like cruelty to the animal since the dog sweats from its tongue.
There are special muzzles you can get which allow the dog to open its mouth enough to be comfortable but not enough to open its jaws enough to bite. Or something like that.
But everyone's right when they say that the owners probably need sorting out more than the dogs themselves.
Posted: 9/25/2004, 9:57 am
by superboots
superboots wrote:bedddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
i guess this means i wanted to go to sleep.

Posted: 9/25/2004, 1:56 pm
by Korzic
Firstly. Pit Bulls are genetically bred to be dangerous dogs. Its in their nature, just as you cant raise a big cat to be a cute pet.
Secondly. What should be done is special licenses to own one + muzzled. (thats how we do it here)
Posted: 9/25/2004, 2:11 pm
by AnnieDreams
^it's true that it's not only handling, it's the breed. Pit Bulls are supposed to be the most viscious dogs there are. If raised well, they can be fine, but most likely still more viscious than other breeds would be under the same circumstances.
Soozy wrote:Chanandler Bong wrote:No one can muzzle a dog when its warm out. Thats like cruelty to the animal since the dog sweats from its tongue.
There are special muzzles you can get which allow the dog to open its mouth enough to be comfortable but not enough to open its jaws enough to bite. Or something like that.
But everyone's right when they say that the owners probably need sorting out more than the dogs themselves.
The muzzle doesn't have to be special, it just has to be the right size. You can get them anywhere that sells pet stuff. The reason I know is because even though my dog is usually friendly, he once bit our paper boy, so we almost always have one on him when he's outside unaccompanied.
Posted: 9/25/2004, 8:17 pm
by xoNoDoubt69
my friend had two pit bulls and they were harmless. but it was probably cause they had good owners who treated them right.
Posted: 9/25/2004, 8:28 pm
by Joey
"Don't look for a pitt bull ban from the BC government. Ontario is considering the move after two of the dogs almost tore a man's arm off over the weekend in Toronto. Our Solicitor General Rich Coleman says the laws we have are enough to deal with dog attacks case by case. In Vancouver, pitt bulls have to be muzzled. Winnipeg banned the breed 15 years ago and saw pitt bull complaints drop from 30 a year to nothing."
Now I don't understand how they ban the breed. Do they just not allow anyone to purchase/breed pitt bulls anymore? For the people who already own pitt bulls, they get to keep their dog and that's it?
"The Windsor HS has so many pitt bulls they are keeping them in quarantine in small cages and they are all going to be killed. It was sad to see, the dogs were all wagging their tails happily when the cameras approached."
Now if that's Windsor's idea of solving the problem, that's pretty freakin' ridiculous.
Vancouver on the other hand seems to have the right idea:
"Potential owners screened through Hug-a-Bully must agree to take responsibility for their new pet and commit to training, caring for and exercising their dog. Owners should have breed knowledge and also have a thick skin. The group insists owner and dog go to obedience class. "If you are not willing to train your dog, this isn't the breed for you," the group advises. "These dogs started getting a bad reputation about 10 years ago and I think it started with some of the subcultures who decided to own them," she said. "They've done these dogs a world of hurt.
It's not the dog but the owner who's to blame." According to Hug-a-Bully's website,
www.hugabully.com, pit bulls are no more vicious than golden retrievers. Hug-a-Bully admits, however, that due to over-breeding and severe abuse, some pit bulls have temperaments far removed from the original breed standards."
"We believe in only placing the best examples of this breed, as this will be the only way for these wonderful breeds to restore their reputation that has been so badly damaged by the media and irresponsible owners. We only place dogs with rock-solid temperaments and accept absolutely NO human aggression. We avoid placing dogs with high levels of dog aggression, or who are known escape artists. It is our goal to ensure that all dogs placed by us are both physically and mentally sound. All potential adoptive homes are thoroughly screened, as it is our wish that each dog we place will serve as a breed ambassador!"
aww.. this is maxwell:

i'm going to steal him

Posted: 9/25/2004, 8:55 pm
by half jill
not if i steal him first.

Posted: 9/25/2004, 9:12 pm
by Joey
*grabs max and runs away*
Posted: 9/25/2004, 9:21 pm
by Joey
http://www.understand-a-bull.com/BSL/Ot ... gsBite.htm
To start, pit bull is not a breed of dog, it’s a term typically used to group 3 breeds of dog, the American Pit Bull Terrier (ABPT), American Staffordshire Terrier (AMSTAFF) and the Staffordshire Bull Terrier (STAFFIE).
The Pit Bull is probably the most misunderstood dog in the United States. People see them and cross the street out of fear and try to ban them from their cities. Why? Simply stated, lack of education on the breeds. The public only sees negative stories in the news. Pit Bulls are wonderful dogs in the hands of responsible owners just like any other breed. As with any dog, there will always be irresponsible owners and poorly bred dogs. That does NOT mean that all of these dogs are evil! The majority of domestic violence in the US is caused by men, are all men considered evil and dangerous, No. Then why would all Pit Bulls be dangerous because of a few bad owners?
For hundreds of years Pit Bulls were bred to fight dogs, certain traits were bred into the bloodlines for that purpose, high pain tolerance, high prey drive, etc. However a quality that was never bred into Pit Bulls was human aggression. Human "aggressive" dogs were undesirable as these dogs required extensive handling prior to and during their fights AND most of these dogs were also family pets so no human aggression was ever tolerated. Dogs that exhibited human aggression were typically killed, meaning that only human friendly lines were perpetuated and desired.
It has been said that a Pit Bull never met a stranger. They love and adore humans. They want so much to be apart of your family and spend time with you watching tv, walking, driving, etc. I have seen severely abused and neglected Pit Bulls who see you comeing and they can't wait to be petted and loved. Even after the abuse, they want nothing more than to be with a family of their own! As with any breed there are exceptions to the normal temperament and behavior. We see this in humans as well, there are good ones and bad ones.
Posted: 9/25/2004, 9:40 pm
by Rusty
My dog was attacked by a pitbull... He's a little beagle/jack russell mix, he was minding his own business, and there was a pitbull across the park and it broke free from it's harness and charged at my dog, my dad saw it and lifted my dog up just in time and the owner was a speedy and big guy so just before he bit my dog the owner jammed his hand in the way of my dog throats so the pitbull just knawed his hand and grabbed my dogs fur and nothing more, he only let go cause he wanted a better grip, then the owner ripped him away and his hand was just bleeding everywhere. He literally dragged the dog away. My dog was lucky...he could have died.
Posted: 9/25/2004, 9:49 pm
by Joey
http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html
i found him
a lot of people don't even know what a pitt bull looks like ..
the tests are good and they prove a point.
"Breed misidentification is a scary thing in a time breed specific legislation is growing.... Pitt Bull dogs are often blamed for dog attacks that may very well have been caused by an another breed"
best picture ever
All Pit Bulls are vicious, right?
Wrong. No more vicious than Golden Retrievers, Poodles or Beagles according to the American Temperament Testing Society (ATTS). In fact, Pitt Bulls received a higher grade, 83.9%, than golden retrievers for good temperament. It's a fact ...
www.ATTS.org
To achieve this score, dogs are put through many confrontational scenarios to see if they react with panic or aggression. The high rating of pit bulls under these tests proves that this breed is not inherently aggressive or vicious.
Posted: 9/25/2004, 11:33 pm
by happening fish
u qnna fuck a fod
they fuc n teqah
bvoys areb hot but theyc suxk.
Posted: 9/26/2004, 9:31 am
by xoNoDoubt69
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Posted: 9/26/2004, 12:26 pm
by Joey
i think it's time to stop drinking at the computer
that way we can avoid such questions as: are you gonna fuck a dog

Posted: 9/26/2004, 12:52 pm
by Joe Cooler
Agreed.
Posted: 9/28/2004, 7:32 pm
by Rusty
I second that motion.
Posted: 10/15/2004, 10:34 am
by namkablam
Posted: 10/15/2004, 4:29 pm
by Joey
i am returning to the board just long enough to say:
i think that is absolute bullshit

the first time i am ashamed to be from ontario .. that is all.
Posted: 10/15/2004, 4:34 pm
by closeyoureyes
Reallllllly not cool.
Posted: 10/22/2004, 10:49 pm
by reza
i think that they should be banned, no question about it. i have two friends who have pit bulls, and though they are loving to them, they are VICIOUS DOGS. i'm sure that there are exceptions, i've seen some of them, but any time you start seeing a breed of animals taking people out, you have to do something about it. even if it means doing something as drastic as banning them.