Who's actually supporting this war.

Sufjan Stevens · Post by **Sufjan Stevens** » 4/1/2003, 4:31 pm

Yes, because Vietnam was definitely a threat to our freedom, right? Same with the Korean War, right Corey? Oh wait, we were just putting our children into a situation that could have been avoided. If other countries aren't democratic, so fucking what? Let them live their fascist lives. Tell me how Vietnam was a threat to our freedom. Did they have all these nuclear bombs pointed at America and flying planes into buildings here?

Corey · Post by **Corey** » 4/1/2003, 4:32 pm

I was talking about WWII

Corey · Post by **Corey** » 4/1/2003, 4:34 pm

hollow minds wrote:soldiers have never given me anything corey.

the soldier TAKES AWAY my rights. he does not grant them.

Funny how you were able to type that sentence in english and not german.

mosaik · Post by **mosaik** » 4/1/2003, 4:36 pm

you're the new nazis. Thanks so much.

the langauge i type it in doesn't change the meaning, corey.

Corey · Post by **Corey** » 4/1/2003, 4:37 pm

we'd all be speaking german if it wasn't for the soldiers that defeated the germans.

Venom · Post by **Venom** » 4/1/2003, 4:40 pm

Thanks Joey. And the draft is unpatriotic. Why the hell should people who have a chance in succeeding in life go off to another country to dodge bullets and kill people he doesn't have problems with? I am not as cold-blooded as you, I can't kill a person, whether he deserves it or not. Oh, and Venom, if you're so goddamn patriotic, why haven't you enlisted for the war yet? I mean, you're so damn special because you're a republican and supporter of Bush, so why don't you sign up for the war and go out there and kill some Arabs? That's what you seem to profess and all. But no, you won't do it though. You know you don't want to fucking die for this reason. You just choose to sit behind your computer screen, find articles insulting Iraquis, and saying how fucking great it is to be American. I hope you feel strong and safe behind your computer screen, but I pray that you get drafted (if the draft is implemented.) When that happens, come onto the board and tell us how much you fucking love the draft then. We'll search the internet and find your name in the list of dead people, then think of how much you loved America for that split second you were still alive after a fucking bullet went through your throat.

Think before you open your mouth and accuse someone of something. I did sign up to be in the Air Force 6 years ago, however it was at that time as I was entering the academy that doctors diagnosed me with a heart condition and so the military told me I could not serve. I fought that ruling, but lost. Seems the military cares too much. I do however have 2 cousins that are currently in the military. One who was in Gulf War 1 and who is now an officer whos unit is currently waiting to hear if they are gonna go fight in this one. So go stick your head in the sand and don't talk to me anymore if you are gonna jump to conclusions and tell me I didn't do something that I tried VERY hard to do. Go harass your ex-gf, but I'm sure she won't put up with it either since she didn't in the first place!!

mosaik · Post by **mosaik** » 4/1/2003, 4:43 pm

and now we're all speaking english, and we all will be, unless saddam defeats the americans.

Corey · Post by **Corey** » 4/1/2003, 4:44 pm

hollow minds wrote:and now we're all speaking english, and we all will be, unless saddam defeats the americans.

fair enough.

mosaik · Post by **mosaik** » 4/1/2003, 4:45 pm

new approach:

why does everybody support the war? if you support it, please tell me why.

Sufjan Stevens · Post by **Sufjan Stevens** » 4/1/2003, 4:46 pm

Way to start up a pointless fight about Stephanie you asshole. Wow, why don't you just say you tried to enlist and let it end there? No, you have to bring her into this. Do you fucking notice that no one but Reno and Corey want you here? Everyone has a fucking problem with you, so just leave the fucking board. No one will ever go, "Hey, I wonder what happened to Matt" and miss you. Do us all a favor and get your patriotic flaming ass off of this board. We told you to leave once, and we'll do it again. This time Rob better fucking ban you. You're nothing but a problem.

mosaik · Post by **mosaik** » 4/1/2003, 4:50 pm

the thing is venom, even though Corey and I sometimes get harsh with each other, and Reno sometimes rolls his eyes at me, we all have an understanding (i think) that we're pals even though we disagree. i like those two guys, i think they're cool, i think they're wrong about war & government but i don't know everything.

you on the other hand don't want to know anybody who isn't on your team. if you can't change that aspect of your personality then maybe you should get the hell out of here.

Axtech · Post by **Axtech** » 4/1/2003, 4:53 pm

I'd like to second both of those posts.

Er... perhaps I should just third the motion of your inevitable ostracism.

Venom · Post by **Venom** » 4/1/2003, 4:57 pm

you on the other hand don't want to know anybody who isn't on your team. if you can't change that aspect of your personality then maybe you should get the hell out of here.

If I didn't wanna know anybody with a differing opinion I wouldn't come here. Makes sense right? I don't go around accusing people of stuff I don't know. That kinda pisses me off......just a TAD! I'm sorry I'm not a person that takes stuff like that lightly. I stand up for myself and if I can strike back I will.......as I did. Alan might learn that if he doesn't know something he may not wanna take a guess cuz it could come back in his face, but then he goes and does it again and thinks I'm Mouse. Hell if I was mouse why wouldn't I admit it? It would mean that the banning on this site doesn't mean squat (which it doesn't because most anyone can change thier ip). I'll say it one more time.....I know Matt through bootleg trading and have met him since he lives fairly close to me, but I am not Matt.

mosaik · Post by **mosaik** » 4/1/2003, 5:00 pm

man the thing is sometimes you can be a royal dick to people - like alan says, no mention of Stephanie was neccessary in your last post.

you say shit to people that is just rude and has nothing to do with the discussion. granted, so do i, but i at least apologize for it.

Sufjan Stevens · Post by **Sufjan Stevens** » 4/1/2003, 5:03 pm

You don't listen to what other people say. You just go ahead and call other people morons and assholes who have their heads up their asses because they don't agree with you. If you had a conscious you would just listen to people and what they have to say and not flame on people because they don't like Bush. You choose to insult people and bring up things about my Stephanie, a person that has been dead to me since September. But go for it buddy, go ahead and dwell on things in the past. But something seems wrong here, seeing that you're not Matt and you supposedly joined the board January 14 this year, yet you know about my fucking past. But you're not Matt, right asshole?

Venom · Post by **Venom** » 4/1/2003, 5:07 pm

no mention of Stephanie was neccessary in your last post.

Maybe not "necessary" so to speak but I fight fire with fire. He insulted me so I turned the tables. In my view and experience it works. He also should not have said what he said, but yet you make no mention of that. I agree most people would say what I did was wrong and for that I'm sorry, but I will not appologize for my policy in regards with such attacks. Same went with the "F-bomb" that started to get dropped on me, so I just started droppin it back and look what happened?? I got blamed for it and everyone wants to ban ME when I was just retaliating, but that the way it works around here and I understand that. Right or wrong the "click" will support the "click".

superboots · Post by **superboots** » 4/1/2003, 5:07 pm

yeah, and why would your "friend" Matt talk to you about Alan? :wtf:

Sufjan Stevens · Post by **Sufjan Stevens** » 4/1/2003, 5:12 pm

OK Venom, let's look at it this way. What you said to me started this whole damn "attack" I threw at you. Last time I checked you said I should leave the country and go to jail because Let me guess, that isn't attacking me or my freedom, something that you profess the war is about, right? You're an asshole, you need to go. No one wants you here.

Venom · Post by **Venom** » 4/1/2003, 5:13 pm

Silly children.....I was introduced to this board by Matt a long time ago when he had his FTP up. I was a "lurker" until Jan of this year (so about 6 months or so). In my lurking I was obvioulsy around for the "happenings" of Alan and Steph. Just cuz I never felt the need to post on this board until Jan doesn't mean I didn't come here. Until I read all the Anti-American BS there wasn't anything worthwhile to post. This board is 95% spam!! I'm sure you can all agree with that. 95% of the topics are nonsensical. That light any lamps for ya??

mosaik · Post by **mosaik** » 4/1/2003, 5:14 pm

Venom wrote:Maybe not "necessary" so to speak but I fight fire with fire. He insulted me so I turned the tables. In my view and experience it works.

...Same went with the "F-bomb" that started to get dropped on me, so I just started droppin it back and look what happened?? I got blamed for it and everyone wants to ban ME when I was just retaliating...

so then in your experience, dropping the F-Bomb and insulting back doesn't work, does it? after all your argument is not made stronger by doing it. all you do is lose your credibility. take it from somebody who knows.