OLP homework help...

nelison · Post by **nelison** » 9/15/2002, 8:16 pm

exactly and just cause you pick that song doesnt mean you're gonna go shoot someone at school...

kulganflame · Post by **kulganflame** » 9/16/2002, 9:57 am

I'd go with "Are you sad?" I think that it most blatently protrays suffering... and the lyrics are aweomse anyways

gravity · Post by **gravity** » 9/16/2002, 11:56 am

MOY "Oh, well i woke up in hell today
I woke up depressed and drained"
depression is suffering hardcore.....

Axtech · Post by **Axtech** » 9/16/2002, 1:37 pm

I hate my teacher.

She said that it has to tie in fairly closely with a selection of stories in our textbook. All of those stories have to do with human conflict in a war-type situation. Stuff like Hiroshima and the concentration camps in WWII.

So, I've been thinking about it, and the only OLP song (that I can think of) that sort of ties in with war is Naveed.

Any thoughts or other suggestions?

superboots · Post by **superboots** » 9/16/2002, 1:43 pm

hmm...I'd say, go with a non-olp song.

And I want to hear your "I hate my teacher" song!!!

Emily Jane · Post by **Emily Jane** » 9/16/2002, 2:14 pm

Hey, while we're on the topic of OLP homework help, does anybody know where I can find some OLP MIDI files? It's not terribly urgent, but I'll be nice to know when the time comes in a few weeks when we start this CD in my vocal class.

Thanks!

Axtech · Post by **Axtech** » 9/16/2002, 2:44 pm

Here's my report/interp on Naveed. It's definately not the best interpretation of the song, but it's what I needed to do for the project. Don't hate me for it. Trust me, I hate this report, and a lot of it is stretching what I actually think of the song. I just did it for the sake of school work.

Bah! I hate this kind of thing. lol...

Here 'tis.

Oh, I should explain what it is... lol.

We have to make a presentation, for which I will play the song (yay!) and answer the question from the textbook...

Here's the question from the textbook:

"Select another work (poem, story, painting, song, etc...) that you have read, heard or seen for this Echo section. Write an interpretation of the work, explain why you would include it in the Echo, and comment on how it presents yet another perspective on the question of how conflict affects the human spirit"

And my response is:

I chose Naveed by Our Lady Peace. The lyrics of this song can be interpreted in many ways, which is the way that the lyricist of the group likes it. One such interpretation can be of struggle in war time situation. The word “Naveed” is a name which, when translated to English, means “Bearer of Good News”. In this song, the narrator is asking for the bearer of good news to come. This could mean that the narrator is in a bad situation, such as war, and is waiting for someone to come along with some good news for a change.
“Did you want to escape, try to escape the population?” is a reference to trying to escape from the war, but not being able to get out of it.
“The pressure is deceiving / For you particularly / To let a young man die / Let him die if he wants to, die if he wants to” is an obvious reference to death, as in a war. It is hard for anyone, be it family or friends, to let someone go off to war to die. But if that person wants to go to war, or is forced to, you just have to “let him die if he wants to”.
“Brother are you there? / Now tell me, is it wonderful? / Or, were you hoping to find, hoping to find, something a little more?” is a allusion to the regret that one may feel for being a part of war, or for starting a war. Someone might go into a war with good intentions, and then realize later that it was not such a good idea, and that the death and sacrifice wasn’t worth it after all.
The chorus, “And I can't live here anymore / But it's hard when you reach for that floor / There's something that tears me inside, so I can't go” concentrates on the struggle one goes through within themselves during a war. The person really can’t live there anymore, and wants to get out, but it’s hard to leave your home and to leave everything behind.
In the bridge, “There he is on his knees again / Trying hard to understand / Why Naveed would let a young man die”, the narrator is talking about a person who is looking for answers. Why would Naveed, who in this case represents a higher power, let these soldiers die? What great cause could be good enough to sacrifice these lives? The person looks to Naveed for the answers to symbolize wondering why no good news has come yet. Why there has been no end to the war, and why no positive affects have come from it.
Another important line in the bridge is “Convinced that he might break he reaches for that phone / And another day is… / Oh, another day is gone / Oh, another day / is gone, is gone, is gone, is gone…” This section alludes to the call families get when relatives die in a war. He’s reaching for the phone, knowing that this could be the call, in which he finds out that his son (or another family member) has become a casualty of the war. The repetition of the words “is gone” helps to bridge the ideas of another day being gone, and this young man being gone (or dead).
At the end of the song, the repetition of “Come, come Naveed” is this person still waiting for the good news to come, and possibly realizing that the good news may never come.

I would include this song in the Echo because it ties in very well with the theme of human conflict and struggle. The other selections deal with conflict in, or in the aftermath of, a war. Naveed also alludes to war, so it fits in well with the others.

Naveed presents another perspective on conflict because it shows how another person, who is not directly involved in the war, can be affected by it. This affect can extremely dampen and even destroy the human spirit.

Whew. Try saying all that in one breath! :lol:

Okay, I'm spent. That's enough homework crap for me. :mrgreen: