New Album in 2012 - "Curve" April 3rd

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runnersdialzero wrote:Oh, there definitely were many people saying that! I was 16 and remember it vividly. Nonetheless, everyone loved it anyway!


I remember liking it more because my parents were so confused by the lyrics - they were "what do they mean - world's a subway, and what the hell does their name mean?" I felt like a cool teenage rebel :lol: I told them it was too profound for them to understand.
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faninor wrote:My first pass trying to figure out the lyrics. Many question marks so far. What do other people hear?


Here is my thoughts and fixes on the lyrics you posted a while back...still some tough ones to make out

ALLOWANCE
Skies like angels turn to rust
We hide inside our pickup trucks
Thoughts heavy like aeroplanes
Come crashing down and burst in flames
Memories, I'd cash them in for peace of mind
And some discipline...yah...ohhhh

No turning back
I'm starting to mend
A fortunate man I've always been
I tear at my heart
If I do concede
I'm only as good as you allow me to be

Friends will come and friends will go
You, my friend [?]
Raindrops plummet from the sky
Inside my lungs a bitter cry...yah....ohhh

Oh I'm starting, starting, starting to mend
As you allow me to be

Skies like angels turn to rust
We hide inside our pickup trucks


FIRE IN THE HEN HOUSE

Fire in the hen house
Protests in the deep south
It's Shangri-La in reverse
Time to call the wet nurse
Markets on the rebound
Riots in the ghost towns
Dirty little secrets
Always change and change and change

Accelerate, must accelerate
Hesitate, mustn't hesitate
Calculate, must recalculate where we've gone wrong
Happens deep inside our bones

[Writers? Riders?] on dust clouds
Working for the rebound
The casual acquaintance
The dirty leaky basements
They're calling on the reserves
The famous [?]
The crafty shape-shifters
Always change and change and change

I see you change
See you change


WINDOW SEAT

I can feel the knives in my back, in my sides
As my body slowly fades
Can you reach into time?
Bring me back here alive
Set the ocean's tides straight?

One by one we fall asleep like passengers in window seats
I know I should go but I stay
One by one we float away like accidents and castaways
I know I should go but I stay, I stay

I can hear the sounds as the wheels hit the ground
My bones begin to break
My bones begin to break


AS FAST AS YOU CAN

I know a girl, got a long snake moan
A fever in her head and a restless soul
I got a feeling that the church don't know
What the church don't know, the church don't mind
We all work on borrowed time

Girl, you run as fast as you can
Don't give up, we'll always be friends, yeah
Run as fast as you, run as fast as you can

I know a girl, got a long snake moan
Got the voodoo in her hips and a god-shaped hole
I got a feeling that the kids don't know
What the kids don't know, the kids don't mind
We all work on borrowed time

Every dog will have its day


IF THIS IS IT

I could be your greatest accident
I could be the blood on your fingertips
Nothing's wrong
Nothing to regret
Just want to breathe you in

If this is it

I could be your greatest confidant
And I could be the head laying on your breast
Just want to breathe you in

The light
The love
The hope is [here/near?]
The weight we're under disappears
If this is it

I could be your greatest accident




WILL SOMEDAY CHANGE

You say that love is a disease
Restless in its company
Like a river to the sea is where you run
You say that all the birds have flown
The heart an antique turned to stone
There is comfort in this great unknown

And all that you've known
All that you say
All that you've known will someday change

You say forgiveness don't last long
You hear the ticking of the bomb
Leaves you wondering where it all went wrong

Light lead us all like harmless spirits traveling



FIND OUR WAY

Hang me up to dry with your clothes
Drink away the fear in my bones
Save me from this ugly landfill
Sun will scare away this winter chill

We love before we hate
And bend before we break
Talk before we'll [?]
And walk before we'll run
Find our way home again, home again
Find our way home again, home again

Lead me to your watering hole
Watch me clean and fix what I got broke
Leave me like a drifter out at sea
Tangled like my father's rosary

Find our way home


RABBITS

See the light in the distance
Ten seconds from sleep
If you blink you could miss it
Voluntarily
If it's home that you're missing
Better call the police

Hopelessly lost at sea
The holes we dig to survive
Like rabbits we run

Gonna join the resistance
Gonna tighten that leash
Try and find some persistence
Temporarily
If it's home that your missing
Better ramp up your speed

The light of day
The dark of night
We [hide in?] our heads keeping our dreams alive


METTLE

How do we agree?
How do we exceed?
[places? faces?] that our lives have taken
Sharpened instruments
Failed experiments
Faces of the occupation

Boxing helps. I guess, I think it toughens your mind. I think you push yourself beyond certain limits, past [?]. The worst thing in the world is to be in a fight and to get tired. You don't want to get tired in a fight.

Say that you could show me
You don't know me
You want to live oh?
Say that you can owe [own?] me
You think you know me
But you're wrong

No matter how much natural ability you have there's a lot of working at it. You know, you don't need... Muhammad Ali was a great fighter but if he didn't train as hard as he did, he... you'd never hear the name Muhammad Ali [....become?]. You have to train hard, you have to devote yourself one hundred percent.

You can't be a success if you don't have [any part of?] discipline. You need discipline to do things. And the discipline is you do it without things, you know?

No matter if we say we believe this, we believe that, you know... there's certain things we believe. But just how strongly we believe is a matter, you know... it's what we want to believe. A force much stronger than us, a power much more powerful, you know? But we still don't know. No matter how much we think we believe, we still tremor at the thought of dying. [?] we shiver [?] almost died, you know? There's something out there. But just to me it's like the great unknown. You know? I don't know.

One of the most important things in life is to have people who care about you, and you care about, you know... Love is the magic word, it is, you know? If it wasn't for love I wouldn't be here today



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Mettle is such a powerful piece... Thanks for typing up the quotes.
by todddowney » 3/28/2012, 8:18 am

^Agreed. Still best when listened to as part of the collection, I think. I also share your opinion on AFAYC. What is your feeling as to why it falls short for you?



afayc is a good song, I do like it, but it sounds like it should be on a cd with fight the good fight. I find it the most out of place on the album. I just feel like everything else is much more tight niche. I like the song itself, I just don't love it like some of the other songs on the album. My biggest problem with it is I view it as taking grocery lists place... But that isn't really a complaint about the song itself, just a preference.
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astute_99 wrote:And of course we all know how much FITHH changed, but I find it interesting how that song was done, and done for a while, and then shortly before the album was finalized they went in to re-work it. I wonder how that decision was made?

My guess:

The Wolf had a very cookie cutter structure. I know a lot of people liked it, and so did I (but for me it was always about the instruments and the verses). I always thought The Wolf had quite a bit in common with Where Are You and All You Did Was Save My Life -- the exact ground that the band didn't want to re-tread -- and it was all due to the chorus. Maybe The Wolf was a better song than those others, but I think it would have fallen short of what they're trying to do with this album and somewhere along the way they realized this. I think the new chorus, and the a capella section where a guitar solo used to be, is so much more interesting.
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the production glitch at 2:42 in "find our way" is really irritating in an otherwise excellent song, can anyone with remix knowledge/abilities try to smooth it out or fix it?
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johnpeterson wrote:the production glitch at 2:42 in "find our way" is really irritating in an otherwise excellent song, can anyone with remix knowledge/abilities try to smooth it out or fix it?


what glitch...i dont hear anything????
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Yeah, I dont hear any glitch...all I hear is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111oneoneeleven
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neoncrossing wrote:
johnpeterson wrote:the production glitch at 2:42 in "find our way" is really irritating in an otherwise excellent song, can anyone with remix knowledge/abilities try to smooth it out or fix it?


what glitch...i dont hear anything????



Wonder if its a problem with a particular rip? I Imagine were listening to 2 or 3 different copies
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it's the percussion layer that is added at just about 2:42... it is inserted awkwardly and abruptly and doesn't fit the music for about two seconds. maybe i'm being too picky about it, but i noticed it as being out of place right away and it's annoyed me ever since.
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johnpeterson wrote:it's the percussion layer that is added at just about 2:42... it is inserted awkwardly and abruptly and doesn't fit the music for about two seconds. maybe i'm being too picky about it, but i noticed it as being out of place right away and it's annoyed me ever since.


We walk before we run, find our way (A) home again (B) home again

Are you talking about what starts at

(A) the cymbal splash before the 1st home again
(B) the last snare hit before the 2nd home again

or that whole chunk?
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johnpeterson wrote:it's the percussion layer that is added at just about 2:42... it is inserted awkwardly and abruptly and doesn't fit the music for about two seconds. maybe i'm being too picky about it, but i noticed it as being out of place right away and it's annoyed me ever since.


It's one of my favourite moments on that track, actually... I don't think it's a blurb :P It sounds like they were very particular on everything that went into these songs...
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I think its the cymbal crash there, I noticed it too. Sounded kinda awkward.
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Every time I listen to Rabbits, at the line...

If it's home that you're missing
Better call the police


I keep hearing "better karma police"... I know it's not what he's saying, just found it funny :P
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faninor wrote:
johnpeterson wrote:it's the percussion layer that is added at just about 2:42... it is inserted awkwardly and abruptly and doesn't fit the music for about two seconds. maybe i'm being too picky about it, but i noticed it as being out of place right away and it's annoyed me ever since.


We walk before we run, find our way (A) home again (B) home again

Are you talking about what starts at

(A) the cymbal splash before the 1st home again
(B) the last snare hit before the 2nd home again

or that whole chunk?


"we walk before we run, find our way [HERE] home again, home again"

so, i guess it would be (A) in your options. the whole percussion line that begins at that moment feels like it was inserted improperly or at the wrong time and it sounds awkward and out of sync rhythm-wise. but it sounds fine after a few seconds.... i'm clearly just being nitpicky as others don't seem to notice it, but it bothered me and seemed like a production error.
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Tinman wrote:I also don't like that people are saying that Mettle isn't really a song... i think its amazing. I think as part of the album is functions as an outro, and really ties the thing with a bow... but as a stand alone piece, even with the spoken word, i think its an amazing and beautiful song.


Codes wrote:I think musically Mettle gives me the most chills, I love it, so hard to compare it to other songs on the cd because it is so different. Like I have said it is like "Something in the way" by Nirvana


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johnpeterson wrote:"we walk before we run, find our way [HERE] home again, home again"

so, i guess it would be (A) in your options. the whole percussion line that begins at that moment feels like it was inserted improperly or at the wrong time and it sounds awkward and out of sync rhythm-wise. but it sounds fine after a few seconds.... i'm clearly just being nitpicky as others don't seem to notice it, but it bothered me and seemed like a production error.

The song does move from a very tight, staccato beat with closed hi-hat and snare to a more fluid, open section with ride cymbal. If it is out of sync, it is by just the teensiest amount, but the switch from hi-hat to ride cymbal might make it sound moreso, especially on the lower quality stream rip.
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johnpeterson wrote:
faninor wrote:
johnpeterson wrote:it's the percussion layer that is added at just about 2:42... it is inserted awkwardly and abruptly and doesn't fit the music for about two seconds. maybe i'm being too picky about it, but i noticed it as being out of place right away and it's annoyed me ever since.


We walk before we run, find our way (A) home again (B) home again

Are you talking about what starts at

(A) the cymbal splash before the 1st home again
(B) the last snare hit before the 2nd home again

or that whole chunk?


"we walk before we run, find our way [HERE] home again, home again"

so, i guess it would be (A) in your options. the whole percussion line that begins at that moment feels like it was inserted improperly or at the wrong time and it sounds awkward and out of sync rhythm-wise. but it sounds fine after a few seconds.... i'm clearly just being nitpicky as others don't seem to notice it, but it bothered me and seemed like a production error.


I def hear it now although in the copy I have its at about the 2:38 mark.
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U.S. iTunes Pre-Order is up: http://t.co/1k3dymzR
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MattCooperPZ wrote:U.S. iTunes Pre-Order is up: http://t.co/1k3dymzR


I don't get it with Pre-ordering on iTunes. Do you get something extra? Will they run out of Mp3's? I don't get the point of pre-ordering.
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LifeRiot wrote:
MattCooperPZ wrote:U.S. iTunes Pre-Order is up: http://t.co/1k3dymzR


I don't get it with Pre-ordering on iTunes. Do you get something extra? Will they run out of Mp3's? I don't get the point of pre-ordering.


ya good point....unless there are extras for pre-ordering a digital copy, whats the point?
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