OLP Urban Grind Tour (2012)

[carleiu]

Just an FYI, Wilco was able to almost completely control scalping in their last set of sold-out Chicago shows (December 2011). There was a strict 2 ticket per person limit, a paperless ticket system that used the purchasing credit card to scan you into the show, and forfeiture of tickets for anyone attempting to purchase more than two tickets or attempting to use more than one credit card.

While purchasing more than two tickets for a group would be a pain in the ass with multiple buyers required, getting in the show was very quick. Best part of it all was that there were literally no tickets available on Stubhub for the last 4 of 5 total shows.

Just my .02, but it's certainly possible.

[FireGX]

=) Got my tickets for Vancouver!!!

[Driven]

It's funny, they've never switched their setlists up a great deal... not as much as I would prefer... but it's hardly as static as you say. Their setlist might have frequently been the same from one night to the next, but if you look at a full tour they'll swap different songs in and out over time. Personally I've never seen them play the same setlist twice (but I've only seen them 2x for Gravity , 3x for HIPT, and 5x for Burn Burn).

I agree that they add a song or two generally per show. But it's all pretty much the same. Pearl Jam literally plays completely different shows from top to bottom almost every night. Different openers, different everything, with the exception of the closing song. They have shows where they don't play some hits. They play their entire library.

You can pretty much guess OLP's set list the day of a show.

[RileyLewis]

Pretty much assume that any show will have all of these songs on it (remove 2 which will vary per show), as well as maybe 3 or 4 other new tracks.

Naveed
Starseed
Clumsy
Superman's Dead
4AM
One Man Army
In Repair
Life
Somewhere Out There
Innocent
Angels/Losing/Sleep
All You Did
Heavyweight

Now that's a great show, no doubt. But really they should only be playing half of those. It's ok to not play Superman's Dead or Naveed every time, fans will understand.

[ClumsyGirl618]

Pretty much assume that any show will have all of these songs on it (remove 2 which will vary per show), as well as maybe 3 or 4 other new tracks.

Naveed
Starseed
Clumsy
Superman's Dead
4AM
One Man Army
In Repair
Life
Somewhere Out There
Innocent
Angels/Losing/Sleep
All You Did
Heavyweight

Now that's a great show, no doubt. But really they should only be playing half of those. It's ok to not play Superman's Dead or Naveed every time, fans will understand.

Life isn't a standard set list song. I'd replace that with Paper Moon. Raine said they feel like they have to play that song.

[faninor]

Yeah, as I said they don't switch up their setlists to the same extent as Pearl Jam or even Radiohead, and not as much as I wish, but it's not like they're one of those bands who goes out and plays the same 16 or 17 songs for a whole tour -- and there are plenty of bands around that do that.

I liked on the HIPT tour where they varied the structure a lot more. It keeps you on your toes and was more interesting than keeping the same overall structure and making a few swaps or rearrangements here and there.

Plus the opener sort of sets the tone for the show. Sometimes it's nice to ease into things with Picture or Car Crash. But, for example this April when they play the birthplace of grunge for the first time in 10 years, they just have to open with something like Dirty Walls... it's just the right thing to do. Glad they're making an effort to change things up more!

[faninor]

Starseed
Clumsy
Superman's Dead
4AM
Innocent
Angels/Losing/Sleep
Heavyweight

Fixed! They know it's okay not to play Naveed at every show, as seen on the Burn Burn tour.

[TwoTimes]

Stubhub - has anyone out there used it in the past, specifically the electronic delivery? I assume I print the entire 8.5x11 sheet of paper with the ticket and the assorted ads on it?

I've done electronic tickets before at both Lupo's in Providence and the Webster in Hartford, but that was through the venue directly and they just scanned the tickets and that was it - there were no ads when you printed the sheet.

This is for the NYC show - I have to imagine that in this day and age almost every place is equipped for electronic/print yourself ticketing, just didn't know if people out there have had that experience with either stubhub or the Bowery or both.

Thanks
Tim

[ClumsyGirl618]

Stubhub - has anyone out there used it in the past, specifically the electronic delivery? I assume I print the entire 8.5x11 sheet of paper with the ticket and the assorted ads on it?

I've done electronic tickets before at both Lupo's in Providence and the Webster in Hartford, but that was through the venue directly and they just scanned the tickets and that was it - there were no ads when you printed the sheet.

This is for the NYC show - I have to imagine that in this day and age almost every place is equipped for electronic/print yourself ticketing, just didn't know if people out there have had that experience with either stubhub or the Bowery or both.

Thanks
Tim

No clue. I don't use Stubhub because I don't buy from scalpers and because a friend of mine bought Foo Fighters tix on that site... which turned out to be fake.

[myownsatellite]

Stubhub - has anyone out there used it in the past, specifically the electronic delivery? I assume I print the entire 8.5x11 sheet of paper with the ticket and the assorted ads on it?

I've done electronic tickets before at both Lupo's in Providence and the Webster in Hartford, but that was through the venue directly and they just scanned the tickets and that was it - there were no ads when you printed the sheet.

This is for the NYC show - I have to imagine that in this day and age almost every place is equipped for electronic/print yourself ticketing, just didn't know if people out there have had that experience with either stubhub or the Bowery or both.

Thanks
Tim

Considering you'd be buying from the people who bought up the tickets just to sell them at inflated prices, I wouldn't trust the site. Also, Raine would be very disappointed in you.

[Neil]

I just bought Monday Night Raw tickets through a sister-site of Ticketmaster and I guarantee I overpaid.

However.. the catch 22 is the fact that if you wanna go. And you have no other choice: you'll pay the money.

Money is evil. However, having the money to throw around keeps me from having to watch it on the couch!

[Neil]

Bitch if you wanna see OLP; you'll pay me the 55 bucks. I don't care if you're crying that it's too much money. I beat you to the tickets and now because I'm faster than you; you'll pay me for my services.

Do you want to see Raine whip his hair back and forth or not???!

Then show me the money.

[ClumsyGirl618]

Bitch if you wanna see OLP; you'll pay me the 55 bucks. I don't care if you're crying that it's too much money. I beat you to the tickets and now because I'm faster than you; you'll pay me for my services.

Do you want to see Raine whip his hair back and forth or not???!

Then show me the money.

ha ha. I'd rather suck it up and ASK Raine to give me tickets and offer him money than buy from one someone who buys tickets to make money.

[faninor]

Many times the tickets you see on places like Stubhub didn't come from the main sale or presales; they were plucked out much earlier than that and pre-selected to be fed into the secondary market.

The venue, the promoter, the ticketing agency and often the artist camp (artist, management and agent) take tickets from the pool of available seats and feed them directly to the re-seller (which from this point on will be referred to by their true name: SCALPER). I am not saying every one of the above entities all do this, nor am I saying they do it for all shows but this is a very common practice that happens more often than not. There is money to be made and they feel they should participate in it. There are a number of scams they employ to pull this off which is beyond the scope of this note.

StubHub.com is an example of a re-seller / scalper. So is TicketsNow.com.

Here's the rub: TicketMaster has essentially been a monopoly for many years - certainly up until Live Nation's exclusive deal ran out. They could have (and can right now) stop the secondary market dead in its tracks by doing the following: limit the amount of sales per customer, print names on the tickets and require ID / ticket matches at the venue. We know this works because we do it for our pre-sales. Why don't THEY do it? It's obvious - they make a lot of money fueling the secondary market. TicketMaster even bought a re-seller site and often bounces you over to that site to buy tickets (TicketsNow.com)!

[Jskot311]

Well on stubhub's site they guarantee this:

Summary of StubHub guarantee to Buyers:

* You will get your tickets in time for the event
* Your tickets will be valid for entry
* Your tickets will be the same as those you ordered

If any of these things do not occur, we will find you comparable or better tickets to the event, or offer you a refund

I'm not sure how often fake tix are sold on there, but if they are you will get a full refund or replacement tickets.

[Tattooed Angels]

Stub hub rips off people. They need to control ticketmaster sites better. I tweeted back to Raine that they should do this next time for fanclub/mailing list. Have people who purchase tickets bring photo id to venue and be let in then. Nobody is going want to deal with showin gup to sell that so cuts down on ticket scalp..

the thing is now Fans also buy tickets and resell them. That is what bothers me most. YOUR FELLOW FANS doing this..


as for changing up setlist I hope so> I just saw Sam Roberts Band 3nights in arow. Though they played about 10 of the same songs every night . The list was changed every night. They played 18-20 songs each night also..

[TwoTimes]

I wasn't trying to start a thing on the sliminess of scalping tickets, but I couldn't get to a computer when they went on sale, so it is what it is. It was more the fact that they're electronic tickets than anything.

Sorry to divert everything...carry on.

[faninor]

No worries, I've used print-at-home tickets from Ticketmaster a couple times, and they print full page with ads. I just fold it up and take the whole thing. If you want to, I think you can cut off the ads as long as you have the full ticket portion including the barcodes and everything. But I'd just take the whole sheet.

[Neil]

Sorry to divert everything...carry on.

And you should be sorry! People don't deviate from the topic in this place. Ever.

[faninor]

Trusty! ourladypeace.com is saying that the Seattle show is sold out but it looks like there are still tickets at http://thecrocodile.com/index.html?page ... t=12134624

Could you look into/fix this? I wouldn't want any fans to check ourladypeace.com and miss their chance based on a typo.