Burn Burn: The Reviews

Codes · Post by **Codes** » 7/23/2009, 1:08 pm

Like Ive said before I expect poor sales from this cd, maybe even the worst potentially, and it will come down to the single choices, which as it stands is just going to be a snow ball shot storm rolling down hill. If they want to salvage anything, they need to pull some rabbits out of their hats. I love the cd, but I know a tonnnnnnnnnnnnnnn of people who have no intentions of picking up this cd based on AYD being the first song they have heard, it's sad, but I figured it would happen. It be cool if they had a "Fan" choice contest or something where they picked the "Single" and even had a say in a video, I know bands have done that in the past.

LifeRiot · Post by **LifeRiot** » 7/23/2009, 1:57 pm

The sad thing is my friends didn't even ask me for the leak of it.

Tattooed Angels · Post by **Tattooed Angels** » 7/23/2009, 2:19 pm

Are your friends Fans?

I do not know what to make of all of this to tell you the truth.

I love this cd. I think it just might be their best work. YOu will have to ask me 6-12 months later. I always give myself a year on all new cd's from bands I love.. Usually my first opinion stand up.

Anyway I really love this cd. I think it is much heavier then songs they did in the past.. There were a few songs here and there, but never as much as this cd..

I was the first to say The End Is Where We Begin sounds like a lost track off Joshua Tree.. I am saying in a postive sense though. I know how much Bono influenced Raine early on. To read all these reviews that say Raine is nothing more then a cheap BONO wanna be without the talent or charm to back it up. OUCH..

Here is what is confusing for me. I am a huge supporter. I love this cd. I disagree with a few people on here and some critics. Does that mean I do not know what I am talking about?. I always considered myself a huge music fan of all types...

HOnestly though I do not think the band care if this cd sells 100 or 1000 copies. I think it is successful for them since they own the rights to the songs. They are happy with the end result and in the end that is all that matters.

Fans will still buy, download, borrow or steal this cd. They will still come out to the shows.

Iw as really surprised they only did 4 songs off this cd live. That means the other 11 songs were older..

LifeRiot · Post by **LifeRiot** » 7/23/2009, 3:02 pm

My friends are fans, and I like this cd, but it still has nothing on the first 4 cds. Just better than the past 2.

Tattooed Angels · Post by **Tattooed Angels** » 7/23/2009, 3:08 pm

LifeRiot wrote:My friends are fans, and I like this cd, but it still has nothing on the first 4 cds. Just better than the past 2.

why would you expect it to have anything to do with the first four cd's?

I think people are having a problem with OLP( The Mike years) and OLP ( The Steve years). or basically the 90's band vs the 2000's band.

I do not think they would try to recreate those early cd's. Why would they.? They have all grown since then.. The things going on in their lives then may not even be relevant to what is going on now..

This cd still has the OLP sound to me..

MindsOnLoan · Post by **MindsOnLoan** » 7/23/2009, 3:13 pm

Tattooed Angels wrote:why would you expect it to have anything to do with the first four cd's?

I think people are having a problem with OLP( The Mike years) adn OLP ( the Steve years).

I do not think they would try to recreat those early cd's. Why would they.? They have all grown since then.. The things going on in their lives then may not even be relevant to what is going on now..

This cd still has the OLP sound to me..

I don't think a lot of the fans are asking for any of the first four to be recreated (at least I'm not; I wouldn't mind certain aspects revisited, but not recreated). The fans just want something that is creative and powerful with enough energy to stand up next to the first four. While the album is still good, I don't think it successfully does that because it kind of overdoes it with the power ballads. It's still a good album, just not great.

Tattooed Angels · Post by **Tattooed Angels** » 7/23/2009, 3:17 pm

MOL it is all opinion

How you feel and how someone else feel may be the same. It may be different.

Never question why someone loves or dislikes a piece of work

I do not understand why you would say fans want it to stand up to the first four, but not the last two> I would think people just want something they can enjoy..

I am not putting on this record thinking about if it is better, worse or the same as the others. Iput on the cd and just listen to it. I enjoy the songs..

Everyone is different. The songs most people love from the band I can not bare to hear and so forth..

MindsOnLoan · Post by **MindsOnLoan** » 7/23/2009, 3:29 pm

Tattooed Angels wrote:Never question why someone loves or dislikes a piece of work

I never did question that.

I do not understand why you would say fans want it to stand up to the first four, but not the last two> I would think people just want something they can enjoy..

For the most part, yes, fans do want something they can enjoy. For a lot of fans though, that would mean getting back to a very creative place with their music. This album was able to do it on some of the songs, but I didn't feel it did it the whole way through. It was kind of uneven. It would have some of the band's best songs in years along with what I find to be some of their worst.

I am not putting on this record thinking about if it is better, worse or the same as the others. Iput on the cd and just listen to it. I enjoy the songs..

There's nothing wrong with that. Just because I'm not exactly like that doesn't make me wrong. Yeah, I do like to put in a CD just to enjoy the songs. But I also like to disect and develop opinions of what's good and what's not so good about the music I'm listening to.

Johnny · Post by **Johnny** » 7/23/2009, 3:30 pm

Tattooed Angels wrote:
I do not understand why you would say fans want it to stand up to the first four, but not the last two> I would think people just want something they can enjoy.

Because the last two albums are utter pieces of shit and people want and hope that the band can make an album that re-captures the essence of the first four.

AnnieDreams · Post by **AnnieDreams** » 7/23/2009, 3:41 pm

Oh, Johnny.
We can always rely on you to grace us with some nice refreshing Gravity-hate.

LifeRiot · Post by **LifeRiot** » 7/23/2009, 3:50 pm

Yeah, I try not to mention OLP to some people I know because I get made fun of for it. But they are also close minded and blow 311 and Chevelle.

They call them Our Lady Peace of Shit.

Heavy Alibi · Post by **Heavy Alibi** » 7/23/2009, 3:51 pm

I think it's m-fkers like this that made Raine stop using his amazing unique voice in the first place:

The good news: OLP’s Raine Maida drops all traces of his piercing aii-ee-iii-ee-iiis in his vocals and sounds more like a real singer. The bad news: The band cops copious amounts of atmospheric rock elements from the likes of Radiohead, Coldplay and U2 and converts it all into one package of formulaic, radio-friendly alt-pop.

What a f#cking idiot. So he wants "unique" music from the band but doesn't want Raine's unique voice? And he says they "copy" Coldplay when that band was only formed in 1997?

http://www.metronews.ca/ottawa/entertai ... lady-peace

Johnny · Post by **Johnny** » 7/23/2009, 4:09 pm

AnnieDreams wrote:Oh, Johnny.
We can always rely on you to grace us with some nice refreshing Gravity-hate.

Anytime miss, anytime.

*tips hat*

Random Name · Post by **Random Name** » 7/23/2009, 4:27 pm

Tattooed Angels wrote:Never question why someone loves or dislikes a piece of work

Wait, what?!
That's just a ridiculous statement. Just because people have subjective opinions doesn't mean there is still no objective quality. You're basically saying the entire discussion about the band is irrelevant because you're going to think differently anyway.

I get really irritated by people who view the world like a "unique little snowflake" and think that opinions are validated by the fact that it is an opinion. Anyone can say "yay" or "nay". Being able to question something, investigate its quality, and illustrate a position with factual evidence is what makes someones opinion on a piece of work more or less valid.

If someone says they don't like the album and lay down the evidence as to why it is poor in comparison, then yes their opinion is more valid than yours, if you said you like it "just because".

Rural Juror · Post by **Rural Juror** » 7/23/2009, 4:28 pm

LifeRiot wrote:Well, one thing is certain; everyone thinks Raine Maida is a pompous self absorbed asshole.

Music critics calling someone a "pompous self-absorbed asshole"... How delightfully ironic.

todddowney · Post by **todddowney** » 7/23/2009, 4:46 pm

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For some reason, Canadian bands have always seemed to create their fare share of quirky and weird. From the quirky pop of the Barenaked Ladies to the weird of the Crash Test Dummies, it seems almost impossible to think of a current Canadian band that doesn’t have that quality (with the exception of Nickelback, whose oddity is their complete vanilla-normalcy). Our Lady Peace doesn’t escape this generalization either.

The quirkiness likely begins with frontman Raine Maida's nasal delivery and almost yodel-esque use of falsetto. There’s also something frequently untraditional in the writing and arrangement of their songs. At least that has been the case in the past.

But here is the present and here is OLP’s new record Burn Burn. It is the band’s seventh album and first since 2005’s largely unheard Healthy In Paranoid Times. Perhaps due to the waning attention they received on that record, or perhaps due to some new attention brought on by 2008 American Idol winner David Cook’s professed love of OLP (he performed their song “Innocent” on an Idol episode and Maida co-wrote three songs on Cook’s debut cd), but the band seems to be in a mood to create a new image…and to let the old one “Burn Burn”. The first thing burnt off is Maida’s falsetto.

The new record opens with the first single, “All You Did Was Save My Life” and, strangely, it sounds like a song Cook would do. It has a similar arena-friendly sound to the aforementioned Nickelback, but with a modern-U2 feel to the lyric. It’s a big sound, but I’m not sure the band pulls it off. Or maybe I just like them a little smaller.

And immediately the band rewards my request, and takes us to the quiet intro of “Dreamland”. The opening of an unaccompanied upright piano leads to a story of a family seeking an escape to a dreamland where, “the kids are alright and the sky is blue/we all got wings and know how to fly”. Did I say this song was small? Well only initially. This chorus is huge…and quite frankly convincing.

The middle of the record is full of diverse aspiration; “Monkey Brains” feels a bit of a misstep, with Duncan Coutts’ heavy bass and distortion reminiscent of Wolfmother. Our Lady Peace can not pull off Wolfmother. They are not that rocking. But then, in a complete 180 degree turn, halfway into the song they drop in this lovely acoustic bridge, which is too quickly destroyed by the return of Wolfmother.

One of the best songs on the record, “Escape Artist”, opens with a muffled kick-drum from Jeremy Taggart’s kit, more piano, and then some pretty incendiary guitar licks from axeman Steve Mazur. In a strange way this feels a little like OLP may have done some song-writing in the cold November rain. It’s a more mature band and the further into the record we get, the more they sound like they’re not over-reaching those “big” intentions.

On “Refuge”, whatever influence U2 had on earlier tracks on the record is finally mastered… here Maida and co. rise to the challenge. The song has a base of pulsing bass and lyrics of love, and then on top of that it builds and swirls so epically and touchingly. The love song “Never Get Over You” is also really good, and towards the end of the record we receive the melodic and bluesy “Signs of Life” . I say “receive” because this is a gift. An intimate little song of the “trouble (one) life has seen” that plays nice counterpoint to the grandiosity of most of the surrounding songs.

Burn Burn is a short record, checking in with only ten songs (unless you purchase the deluxe edition with bonus tracks), but the result is lean and concise and thick with good pop-rock songs that aspire to the arenas of the bands’ heroes and influences. And if the world finds out about this record, they may reach that goal. It is not undeserving and it may surprise. It may light (or relight) a few fires.

DG · Post by DG » 7/23/2009, 4:58 pm

The middle of the record is full of diverse aspiration; “Monkey Brains” feels a bit of a misstep, with Duncan Coutts’ heavy bass and distortion reminiscent of Wolfmother. Our Lady Peace can not pull off Wolfmother. They are not that rocking. But then, in a complete 180 degree turn, halfway into the song they drop in this lovely acoustic bridge, which is too quickly destroyed by the return of Wolfmother.

Bullshit.

Heavy Alibi · Post by **Heavy Alibi** » 7/23/2009, 5:08 pm

Obviously this tool hasn't ever listened to Naveed, or Car Crash. Wolfmother only came around when Spiritual Machines was released anyway.

todddowney · Post by **todddowney** » 7/23/2009, 5:12 pm

Trustworthy · Post by **Trustworthy** » 7/23/2009, 9:43 pm

this is the best album ever made EVER! All of your opinions are obviously wrong,

I am right , so whacha gonna do about it now? huh ? huh?