"Paper Moon" and "Dreamland" clips released by Sony!!! (REMOVED)

MindsOnLoan · Post by **MindsOnLoan** » 6/7/2009, 6:26 pm

I think Dreamland seems a bit too slow (gives kind of a forced feeling) and the instruments are pushed a bit back and sound... idk, jarred would I guess be the word. The instruments don't seem like they have a free, raw feeling. They seem pretty overthought and very planned, unlike a lot of other things we've heard from the album

Keep in mind I'm basing this purely on the 30 seconds I've heard.

todddowney · Post by **todddowney** » 6/7/2009, 7:02 pm

*edit

Shanae · Post by **Shanae** » 6/7/2009, 7:29 pm

MindsOnLoan wrote:I think Dreamland seems a bit too slow (gives kind of a forced feeling) and the instruments are pushed a bit back and sound... idk, jarred would I guess be the word. The instruments don't seem like they have a free, raw feeling. They seem pretty overthought and very planned, unlike a lot of other things we've heard from the album

Keep in mind I'm basing this purely on the 30 seconds I've heard.

See, if I could actually make a point when I wrote, that'd be nice. I agree with Minds on this one. It seems a bit too in place, a bit too perfect.

blueseeka · Post by **blueseeka** » 6/7/2009, 7:56 pm

Shanae wrote:I thought it was a bit weird that Sony had put those clips out.

Agreed not sure why Sony would be release these clips now. Espically since I doubt that either of these songs (only based on the 30 seconds) would be future singles.

MindsOnLoan · Post by **MindsOnLoan** » 6/7/2009, 7:59 pm

Could Sony be doing it to (slightly) piss them off?

And blueseeka, Steve said in March that Dreamland is likely to be the second single.

Heavy Alibi · Post by **Heavy Alibi** » 6/7/2009, 11:08 pm

So hopefully that means Paper Moon is the third single. I have a feeling OLP knows that Sony has released these clips.

reza · Post by **reza** » 6/7/2009, 11:23 pm

ivewaited wrote:
that would be kind of cool though actually if they released to us a ton of bogus tracks and then the real thing is something completely different.

I thought about that too but I don't believe it would happen simply because the single's been already been released. It would be cool if OLP did something like the Black Eyed Peas is doing with E.N.D. and the whole idea of an evolving record. will.I.am did this with his last solo CD too, I can totally see the band embracing that sort of philosophy.

Illusion · Post by **Illusion** » 6/7/2009, 11:28 pm

I actually, more then anything, want to see Monkey Brains as a single just to lure back a few of the ex-OLP fans who left post-Gravity (although Paper Moon might be able to do the same thing as a single..tough to say). If OLP wants to be popular again, they're not going to do it with songs like AYD and Dreamland; they need to tap into their old fan-base that sold them a million-plus records for Clumsy.

MindsOnLoan · Post by **MindsOnLoan** » 6/7/2009, 11:32 pm

Illusion wrote:I actually, more then anything, want to see Monkey Brains as a single just to lure back a few of the ex-OLP fans who left post-Gravity (although Paper Moon might be able to do the same thing as a single..tough to say). If OLP wants to be popular again, they're not going to do it with songs like AYD and Dreamland; they need to tap into their old fan-base that sold them a million-plus records for Clumsy.

That thought had occurred to me... But the song has to be a perfect fit, assessable enough for a casual listener to remember and want to hear (so that it can get enough play for classic fans to even hear it) along with the creativity to lure back old OLP fans.

Teedus · Post by **Teedus** » 6/7/2009, 11:46 pm

Godly.

reza · Post by **reza** » 6/7/2009, 11:56 pm

Singles are commercial attempts to make money. Labels and artists make money off royalties, the television and radio stations make their money off commercials. The music is just there to sell you stuff, the single in itself is trying to sell the record to you.

The entire purpose of releasing singles (especially the first one) is to get as many people talking about the song as possible, not necessarily die-hard fans. To release Monkey Brains as a single would disrupt the capitalist engine.

Codes · Post by **Codes** » 6/8/2009, 12:51 am

Well if the band only releases the "softer" singles, then people who are either looking for or expecting a "harder" sound cd will just turn blind eye. Releasing Monkey brains allows the band to put a single out that might stretch into other categories which they haven't really been put into since back in the late 90's.

As you can see alone from the Youtube views for AYD video, most people are either Love it!, or what the fuck happened to the old OLP. You release a song like Monkey brains, people might say ohhhhhhh well maybe its worth listening to this cd after all.

If it was me, based on what we have heard

AYD
Monkey Brains
Dreamland

should be the first three singles in that order, with Monkey brains getting released maybe a week or two before the cd launches.

Heavy Alibi · Post by **Heavy Alibi** » 6/8/2009, 2:04 am

I posted the AYD video that's gotten 25,000 views... and I made a note on the video telling people to check out the Monkey Brains clip I also posted on Youtube... so hopefully many do check it out.

Heavy Alibi · Post by **Heavy Alibi** » 6/8/2009, 8:44 am

Sony has removed the Paper Moon and Dreamland clips!

Mark Loj · Post by **Mark Loj** » 6/8/2009, 8:58 am

The direct links on the first page (second post) still work.

Driven · Post by **Driven** » 6/8/2009, 9:05 am

Codes wrote:Well if the band only releases the "softer" singles, then people who are either looking for or expecting a "harder" sound cd will just turn blind eye.

And that's a smaller group of people than what All You Did appeals to.

Codes · Post by **Codes** » 6/8/2009, 10:57 am

Driven wrote:
Codes wrote:Well if the band only releases the "softer" singles, then people who are either looking for or expecting a "harder" sound cd will just turn blind eye.

And that's a smaller group of people than what All You Did appeals to.

But "That" group I' am referring to is more likely to A) Buy the cd and B) go to their concerts. So even if it might be smaller, you might see close to the same return as the larger mainstream group, and they might have a greater retained value for future material.

BOAT · Post by **BOAT** » 6/8/2009, 11:09 am

I think the two clips were a great find...

Personally, though, I will be staying tuned to .NET because the hands of time only rule this chapter.

-Kruno

Trustworthy · Post by **Trustworthy** » 6/8/2009, 2:24 pm

LOL! shabam!

neoncrossing · Post by **neoncrossing** » 6/8/2009, 2:44 pm

i think Mr. TW had a little something to do with the clip removal...haha

give us the good stuff on .net...i want more than just a taste of the monkey brains...go ahead now don't be shy