New Single on Stombo Show- THIS SUNDAY

Heavy Alibi · Post by **Heavy Alibi** » 5/10/2009, 11:48 pm

This is one sad day in OLP history...

DG · Post by DG » 5/10/2009, 11:52 pm

Strong Alibi wrote:This is one sad day in OLP history...

No, people just are blowing 90 seconds of 1 song out of proportion.

theo · Post by **theo** » 5/10/2009, 11:54 pm

I will not judge a song, let alone a whole album, by a 2 minute clip.

Heavy Alibi · Post by **Heavy Alibi** » 5/11/2009, 12:01 am

Well I didn't mean in respect to the song... I think it's a pretty good song... I meant about the members freaking and leaving and "giving up" on OLP.

DG · Post by DG » 5/11/2009, 12:04 am

Strong Alibi wrote:Well I didn't mean in respect to the song... I think it's a pretty good song... I meant about the members freaking and leaving and "giving up" on OLP.

True... Their loss, I guess. If they truely "give up" because of something like this... it's kind of an immature outlook.

reza · Post by **reza** » 5/11/2009, 12:39 am

Let's just say that based on this 2 minute clip and by utilizing some absurd logic that we can conclude that BB is going to be a terrible record. At the end of the day, it's just one cd. It can't erase the awesomeness of all of their other albums. To quit being a fan is ridiculous (if possible). Anyways, the point is that Our Lady Peace is making music and we can see them tour this summer, everything else is gravy.

Lando · Post by **Lando** » 5/11/2009, 2:57 am

THIS SONG IS SO SUPER AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dr. Hobo · Post by **Dr. Hobo** » 5/11/2009, 6:30 am

your mom is super awesome!

OLPManiac · Post by **OLPManiac** » 5/11/2009, 7:51 am

for me this is a joke...i can't believe that this is the song that i feel on youtube...but where is the very Raine's voice in this song it is very slow ...i'm a drug of OLP but this song don't like me... I WANT OLD Our Lady Peace!!!!!!!!! With Raine's falsetto and Arnold Lanni....I wait the album but at this time i'm discouraged...

Rural Juror · Post by **Rural Juror** » 5/11/2009, 11:14 am

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I understand that the song (or the little that we’ve heard of it, at least) doesn’t necessarily match everyone’s tastes, and that’s perfectly valid. I don’t understand this “the sky is falling” and “it’s a dark day in OLP history” talk though.

Jeremy introduced it as being the fast, up-tempo song of the album – every album needs one, according to him. For me, that translates to: “We’ve released one album in the past 7 years, and it didn’t even really sell all that well. Most music fans don’t even know that we’re still together. If we’re going to get back into the public consciousness, we need to release a poppy radio-friendly single – something that’s actually going to be PLAYED consistently – to kick things off.”

If they say that this album is going to be Naveed-ish, I believe them. If they were just trying to tailor to the masses and release “generic rubbish”, then they wouldn’t have made that claim (several times now), because the majority of the masses wouldn’t have even heard of Naveed and are just looking for “Innocent II”. “Monkey Brains” sounds like one of the most Naveed-esque songs that we’ve heard from them in a long time, and I get the feeling that it matches the general tone of the album far more than “All You Did Was Save My Life”.

In conclusion, I love the song, but I love everything that they do, so I’m not the best judge. Like it or not though, you have to admit that it’s pretty catchy and should get some airplay, which is exactly what you look for in a lead single, especially after a lengthy absence.

And regarding Raine’s producing skills, I really have no qualms. I think the bass sounds great, and the drums sound fantastic. Jeremy’s hi-hat/tambourine sound beautiful (particularly in the second verse), and the snare is so crisp throughout. Steve is a little quiet, particularly during the verses, but I think that has to do with the “slow build” thing Raine talked about. The “Will The Future Blame Us?” comparison is a pretty good one: sparse guitars in the verse with driving bass and drums and then a soaring chorus.

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Heavy Alibi · Post by **Heavy Alibi** » 5/11/2009, 11:31 am

Rural Juror wrote:If they say that this album is going to be Naveed-ish, I believe them.

Just to be clear... I don't think they've ever said this. They've only said that the album has more of a "Naveed feel" in the sense that it stripped down and raw, and is just the four guys making music. I never heard any of them say the music itself would be similar. Raine said it's more of a "rock" album again, but that's it. But Jeremy also introduced "All You Did" on the Strombo show as "a classic OLP rock song", so I don't know what they're really considering rock to be.

And regarding Raine’s producing skills, I really have no qualms.

For the most part I think the song is okay in terms of production, except for two major flaws: the overpolishing/dumbing down from the live version (no energy, Raine's voice uninspired), and the fact that it's much too slow and it almost sounds slurred or artificially slowed down. Just try and picture Raine lip synching this in their music video... I can just picture it looking like a slow motion video. It's only a notch or so too slow but it's still not right. So it seems that maybe they're having trouble getting a good constant beat and rhythm in the studio without a professional producer? I don't know.

But all that aside, I agree with your main points that we shouldn't be so negative so early on. You make a completely valid point that the rest of the record could very well have a whole different theme. That's why we need to just wait and let it happen. I, for one, am happily anticipating the album's release.

Rural Juror · Post by **Rural Juror** » 5/11/2009, 11:47 am

Strong Alibi wrote:Just to be clear... I don't think they've ever said this. They've only said that the album has more of a "Naveed feel" in the sense that it stripped down and raw, and is just the four guys making music. I never heard any of them say the music itself would be similar. Raine said it's more of a "rock" album again, but that's it. But Jeremy also introduced "All You Did" on the Strombo show as "a classic OLP rock song", so I don't know what they're really considering rock to be.

You're right, I don't think that they ever said that the album would have the same style as Naveed, but I was referring more to the fact that they keep stressing its rawness. "AYDWSML" did not sound overly raw to me, but I believe the rest of the album will be (aside from possibly "The Right Stuff").

And I think Jeremy's "classic OLP rock song" comment had more to do with some insecurities over the fact that Raine got help writing this song. We heard a similar line on the night that the song was debuted live, I believe. He's just stressing the fact that they made the necessary changes to make this song theirs and not some pre-packaged product that they got from another writer. That's what I took from the comment, anyways.

Codes · Post by **Codes** » 5/11/2009, 11:53 am

Listen the song itself isn't horrible, but this version is. IT went from an energetic song that was catchy, but still rocking, to a poppy generic radio carbon copy song that lost its energy.

This itself is what pisses me off, because the band has been doing this for almost a decade now.

When you say your new cd is going to represent a raw feeling, and it then becomes over produced like this, I mean im hoping its just this song, but I can't see them making one song over produced and the rest raw, just would seem odd.

I understand they need to sell cds, thats the business, but it still hurts

todddowney · Post by **todddowney** » 5/11/2009, 11:58 am

Execution is mediocre, I think.

Heavy Alibi · Post by **Heavy Alibi** » 5/11/2009, 11:59 am

Where's Trustworthy? I wish he was here so he could relay this to the band... although the music video is already shot so they can't redo the single. Unless they can release a "remix" version?

I really loved the live AYDWSML, but the studio version is, like Codes said, a shell of itself. I cringed when listening to it, I know OLP is better capable than that! I mean come on! Why do you think we're all such die hard fans?

todddowney · Post by **todddowney** » 5/11/2009, 12:05 pm

Meh..

ajk · Post by **ajk** » 5/11/2009, 12:09 pm

miked23 wrote:I know we only saw like 3 seconds of the song during the Etalk daily show, but I was already worried. Something about it just didn't seem right. It definitely feels unnaturally slowed down, which hurts.

Also, I know I've said this like one hundred times already, but the backing vocals depress me. I thought put the heartbeat back inside with
Raine, Duncan, and Steve all singing it forcefully was awesome. Now it seems to be drained of any feeling as it just plods along.

I still like the song, just think the execution was a bit off.

That made a huge difference in my opinion. In the live performance, the chorus is anthemic and bursting with energy (in large part due to the backing vocals).... the studio version just doesn't seem to have that energy.

It is a little bit frustrating because this track does have the potential to be a strong song (I actually like the melodies and harmonies)... but you're totally right in saying about it didn't seem right and that it feels a bit forced.

That all said.. this isn't 1999 and OLP isn't the same household name that they have been in the past. They really haven't had a hit single since 2002 and they needed to get some momentum at radio for this album. They'll get that with this track.

Codes · Post by **Codes** » 5/11/2009, 12:31 pm

I'll say this, if the rest of the cd is as good as we think it can be, and this single is the only exception on the basis of trying to move cds, then I can be ok with that, but I will be severly saddened if the rest of the cd loses its energy.

I mean they changed the CD cover to kind of convey a more depressing feeling, so the other songs must be showing something else off, heres hoping.

OLPManiac · Post by **OLPManiac** » 5/11/2009, 12:47 pm

OlpManiac wrote:for me this is a joke...i can't believe that this is the song that i feel on youtube...but where is the very Raine's voice in this song it is very slow ...i'm a drug of OLP but this song don't like me... I WANT OLD Our Lady Peace!!!!!!!!! With Raine's falsetto and Arnold Lanni....I wait the album but at this time i'm discouraged...

It's unbelievable i Listening again 100 times the song and that like me certainly in the limits, this isn't a "classic OLP song" for me but this is a single can be a hit like Innocent and Somewhere Out There, because I did hear this song at non-OLP fans and they tell me that is amazing. For me this will be a radio hit and i wait the other song from the album....

MindsOnLoan · Post by **MindsOnLoan** » 5/11/2009, 1:52 pm

People can keep defending this by saying "we've only heard 2 minutes of it." That doesn't change half of it sucking. It's highly doubtful that the song will jump from this to being like the live version most people were a fan of. Even if it does, the song will be poorly executed for making the mistake that is that first half.

And if it's production style was just for shifting units, then why couldn't they release The Right Stuff with a supposed "raw" recording style? TRS itself is a giant hook, so I don't doubt the success it would have even if it wasn't so heavily (yet terribly) polished like All You Did.