Raine's Solo Album

Lando · Post by **Lando** » 9/6/2006, 3:14 pm

I'm actually really interested/excited to see what happens with this. Raine's lyrics were always better when they were more cryptic and let the listeners come up with their own interpretations or ideas of what he was talking about. Everyone could connect with a song differently on their own personal level because the listener can link Raine's lyrics with their own personal situations which are unique to that individual's life. When you say everything so linear, there's not much to connect with. You know the writer is speaking about something specifically, and while you may be able to still relate to the material, you don't connect with it on the same level. That's why I loved the first 4 albums a lot more than the last two. Just coming out and saying what you mean lyrically isn't poetic, nor does it make for very interesting story-telling. Song writing should be an interpretive distortion of the original writer's ideas, unique to each listener. So that a song's meaning branches out in all different directions for everyone individually. Hopefully without the rest of the band's input and a producer who likes to "simplify" things, Raine will just go back to doing what he found natural, writing the way he was comfortable with.

This could be a cool project he's working on. I'm looking forward to hear what he comes up with.

Lando · Post by **Lando** » 9/6/2006, 3:40 pm

Oh and not that I don't like Chantal, but I think Raine works better when not collaborating. Hopefully she won't be giving too much input into his writing either.

Hope · Post by **Hope** » 9/6/2006, 6:21 pm

Lando wrote:Oh and not that I don't like Chantal, but I think Raine works better when not collaborating. Hopefully she won't be giving too much input into his writing either.

i don't necessarily agree that cryptic lyrics are the best kind, but a step up from the last two albums will definitely be welcome. ha. i'm curious to what kind of music he'll be making. i hope that he doesnt make standard rock songs. well if he does, they better be awesome. he did say that it was going to be "a personal creative expression quite different from OLP", and i just hope he's not bullshitting.

Kathy · Post by **Kathy** » 9/6/2006, 6:55 pm

I hope I'm not as disappointed as I was when I found out some of the friends/bands that Steve was working with... I listened on myspace and gagged.

Hope · Post by **Hope** » 9/6/2006, 6:59 pm

Kathy wrote:I hope I'm not as disappointed as I was when I found out some of the friends/bands that Steve was working with... I listened on myspace and gagged.

by the way, raine named some titles of the songs he's working on:

tentative titles..."who sold you out" "attention please" "a constant reminder" " she rides the elevators"

Random Name · Post by **Random Name** » 9/6/2006, 7:12 pm

I'm not sure I've ever found many of the lyrics I like best from the first four albums to be cryptic or mysterious or anything. In fact I find some songs are a lot clearer then some of the more recent songs. I just think a lot of the more recent subject matter is bland, mundane and has been done to the point of being cliche. It's not like Car Crash was a foggy cloud of unknown territory, but its much more interesting to litsten to a song like that with a unique point of view and creative emotional and poetic lyrics then just singing about how in in love you are or how having fights hurts your feelings.

Maybe someone should smash into Raines hummer to try to inspire him.

Hope · Post by **Hope** » 9/6/2006, 7:56 pm

you might be right.. i wouldn't mind lyrics that seem nonsensical and plain fun. i guess what i'd like to see is ANYTHING but trite or over-repeated phrases used in lyrics today.

Kathy · Post by **Kathy** » 9/7/2006, 4:43 am

I'm not sure how much "plain fun" Raine has in him

Henrietta · Post by **Henrietta** » 9/7/2006, 8:36 am

Raine is doing a solo album! Holy cow, cool. I hope it's awesome and not Beyone. I hate lead singers that just want to cut their band out.

Random Name · Post by **Random Name** » 9/7/2006, 7:11 pm

I read the myspace thing and I have to say, that its really cool that he is refering to this project as an experiment. Thats definately a good sign in my book.

Creativity would be nice.

redneck_bill · Post by **redneck_bill** » 9/7/2006, 8:59 pm

Lando wrote: Just coming out and saying what you mean lyrically isn't poetic, nor does it make for very interesting story-telling.

You took the words right out of my mouth. The music on the new album is good, really good at times. I just can't find anything too compelling in the lyrics. Everything sounds so formula.

I'd be interested to hear the solo stuff but does this mean OLP is no longer his outlet of choice for self-expression? If he feels OLP fans wouldn't relate to the kind of music he wants to make does that mean his heart isn't in the band anymore? I'd rather OLP break up than go on making half-hearted offerings. I just hope he has enough creative energy to keep both fresh.

Post by **faninor** » 9/7/2006, 10:34 pm

redneck_bill wrote:I'd be interested to hear the solo stuff but does this mean OLP is no longer his outlet of choice for self-expression? If he feels OLP fans wouldn't relate to the kind of music he wants to make does that mean his heart isn't in the band anymore? I'd rather OLP break up than go on making half-hearted offerings. I just hope he has enough creative energy to keep both fresh.

It doesn't mean that at all, it just means he's excited about making music that he doesn't feel suits OLP's style, or that he wants full control over. It's perfectly normal for artists to have solo side-projects or whatever and continue in their main band too.

I think he's always had songs that he kept to himself because he didn't think they fit for OLP (in fact, Innocent, err... Arrogant as it was then called, was written long before recording Gravity, and Raine was very hesitant to play it for the band and have them try it out because he wasn't sure it was the kind of song for OLP). This is a way for that stuff to see the light of day.

Random Name · Post by **Random Name** » 9/8/2006, 8:36 am

So I was thinking.

What do you think this is going to do to the olp fans?

Is this going to be like Jacks Mannequin where now there are lots of fans of Jacks who have never heard of Something Corporate or have never listened to them anyways. Do you think people will want him to go back to OLP? Do you think people will want him to stay solo?
Do you think he'll have any sucuess at all?

neoncrossing · Post by **neoncrossing** » 9/8/2006, 11:43 am

he has tour dates up on myspace
i think this means he is opening for chantal
i would love to go see this if its really happening

Post by **faninor** » 9/8/2006, 12:04 pm

He is opening for Chantal.

Random Name · Post by **Random Name** » 9/8/2006, 2:45 pm

*gag*

Tattooed Angels · Post by **Tattooed Angels** » 9/8/2006, 3:10 pm

Raine had been slated to play with CK for her whole tour. He is going to play about 30-40 minutes set on the tour..

petersl1 · Post by **petersl1** » 9/8/2006, 6:23 pm

My general view of the ppl who don't like Raine's lyrics about love on Gravity and HIPT are the ones who want to marry him and only like him for his looks, not his musical genius.

I think his songs about Chantal are the most heartfelt of all OLP songs.

laurel · Post by **laurel** » 9/8/2006, 6:36 pm

i personally think that songs like 4am, clumsy, are you sad, thief, etc. are a lot more heartfelt. not loveydovey heartfelt, necessarily, but you can still feel the raw emotion radiating from them.

what do you classify as songs about chantal, though? apology is an obvious one...but what else?

Axtech · Post by **Axtech** » 9/8/2006, 6:40 pm

petersl1 wrote:My general view of the ppl who don't like Raine's lyrics about love on Gravity and HIPT are the ones who want to marry him and only like him for his looks, not his musical genius.

are you even serious? I, as well as many others, don't like the lyrics on Gravity, and to a certain extent on HIPT, because the lyrics are uninspired. I like songs that deal with emotions and love. What I don't like are lyrics like "..." you know what? forget quoting it. We've quoted, analyzed and reanalyzed this album to death. It's simple, but not in a good way. It's simple and for the most part clichéd, so it comes across as if it was written without inspiration or feeling. Simplicity CAN be a good thing, but it's managed horribly on Gravity.

Basically, you made a laughable generalization and I'm really just hoping that you weren't serious. :lol:

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