Debut of HIPT on Billboard

kc · Post by kc » 8/28/2005, 3:42 pm

I believe Gravity debut at #9 on the billboard charts, off the success of SOT being played on the US radio stations. I have a hard time believing that HIPT will debut even in the top 50, after the single Where Are You. I was wondering where you guess the album will debut?

gokirk72 · Post by **gokirk72** » 8/28/2005, 4:10 pm

When I take into consideration that when I asked about the dvd and album at FYE they looked at me with a blank stare supposedly never having heard of OLP before, and the fact that I've yet to hear Where Are You once other than on the Late Late Show and the one I dl'd on the computer ... I'd say around 85.

nikki4982 · Post by **nikki4982** » 8/28/2005, 4:42 pm

Yeah, Somewhere Out There was pretty huge by the time Gravity debuted... meanwhile, Where Are You is... well... not.

Though, this is a highly anticipated album cos of the band's big break. I guess it all depends on if the core fanbase is bigger than we think it is or not.

Clumsythief · Post by **Clumsythief** » 8/28/2005, 5:57 pm

Is the Billboard based on US sales or North American sales? I'm sure that HIPT will be doing good in Canada. I'd say #2 in Canada, behind Kanye West in the first week.

naveed99 · Post by **naveed99** » 8/28/2005, 6:24 pm

I think its going to debut high as well, its a good album, but it all depends on how big the core fan base is, OLP does have LOTS of fans.

kc · Post by kc » 8/29/2005, 5:40 am

I am pretty sure Billboard is based on US sales. After all the Canadian press, signed copies of HIPT, small club and free shows- I think it would disappointing if they didn't debut at #1 in Canada. I am surprised that so many people believe it debut's in the top 10. It would be amazing if they did it two albums in a row. I think SM debut somewhere in the 90's.

ajk · Post by **ajk** » 8/29/2005, 8:03 am

kc wrote:I am pretty sure Billboard is based on US sales. After all the Canadian press, signed copies of HIPT, small club and free shows- I think it would disappointing if they didn't debut at #1 in Canada. I am surprised that so many people believe it debut's in the top 10. It would be amazing if they did it two albums in a row. I think SM debut somewhere in the 90's.

If they had chosen any other week to release the album in the last 2 months they would have debuted #1 in Canada but the hype around the Kanye West album is huge. I don't know if they can take the top spot from him.... Gravity had opening sales of 25000, I wonder if they can top those numbers?

As for the states... .who knows? Where Are You isn't exactly storming up the charts. They should have a decent fanbase built up in the States but who knows if they'll pickup the album right away.

I'd have to guess somewhere between 20-30... but I was way off with Gravity and will probably be wrong again.

neoncrossing · Post by **neoncrossing** » 8/29/2005, 8:08 am

in the interview from the album premier on Y108 in hamilton last nite, they said that where are you is the bands biggest radio hit to date....i found it rather surprising, but i guess its not too shocking cause it does get a lot of airplay in Canada

nikki4982 · Post by **nikki4982** » 8/29/2005, 8:16 am

Biggest in just Canada, or everywhere? Cos there's no way it's doing better down here than SOT did. That even crossed over to adult contemporary stations.

nikki4982 · Post by **nikki4982** » 8/29/2005, 8:17 am

Oh yeah, and for anyone who's curious to see all of OLP's competition tomorrow...

billboard.com wrote:NEW RELEASES

August 30, 2005
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Album Artist Label Genre
Old School Love Songs, Vol. 7 Various Artists Thump R&B
Hillbilly DeLuxe Brooks & Dunn Arista Country
Nothing Left to Hide Cory Morrow Smith Music Group Country
Christmas Collection George Strait Madacy Country
Collection: At Folsom Prison/At San Quentin/Americ Johnny Cash Sony Country
Christmas Collection Reba McEntire Madacy Country
Pair to Draw To Rex Allen/Don Edwards Madacy Country
Best of Tommy Collins Tommy Collins Curb Country
Classic Country Somebody Done Me Wrong Songs Various Artists Time Life Country
Very Best of the Voice Vern Gosdin Music Mill Country
Christmas Collection George Strait Madacy CTRY
Best of Tommy Collins Tommy Collins Curb CTRY
Not in Our Name Charlie Haden Liberation Music Orchestra Verve Jazz
Music for Two Basses Dave Holland & Barre Phillips ECM Jazz
Angel Feet David Gordon Trio Guild Jazz
Just Feels Right Euge Groove Narada Jazz
Looking Up Gregg Karukas V2 Jazz
Possibilities Herbie Hancock Vector Jazz
Love, Love Julian Priester ECM JAZZ
Something Like Now Moutin Reunion Quartet Lightyear Jazz
Without a Song: The 9/11 Concert Sonny Rollins Fantasy Jazz
Trance Steve Kuhn ECM Jazz
Basquiat's Journey Through Jazz Various Artists Prestige Jazz
Amongst the People: Live at the House of Tribes Wynton Marsalis Angel Jazz
Identidad Alberto Cort�z EMI International Latin
Anasol Anasol Univision Latin
Nuevo y lo Mejor Antony Santos EMI International Latin
Solo lo Nuestro: 20 Exitos Banda Arkangel R-15 Sony International Latin
Solo lo Nuestro: 20 Exitos Banda Lagos Sony International Latin
Solo lo Nuestro: 20 Exitos Banda Maguey Sony International Latin
Solo lo Nuestro: 20 Exitos Banda Pachuco Sony International Latin
Cita Chicos Aventura Sony International Latin
Ednita y Sus Exitos Ednita Nazario EMI International Latin
Eletr�custico Gilberto Gil WEA International LATIN
Eletr�custico Gilberto Gil WEA International Latin
Pasito Duranguense Inquietud de Durango Aries Music Latin
Solo lo Nuestro: 20 Exitos La Arrolladora Banda el Limon de Rene Camacho Sony International Latin
Siglo Sin Ti Melvin Cesarin EMI International Latin
Mejor de Mi Myriam Hern�ndez EMI International Latin
Casa Natalia Lafourcade/La Forquetina Sony International Latin
Entrega Total... Los Exitos Pablo Montero Sony International Latin
Entrega Total... Los Exitos [CD & DVD] Pablo Montero Sony International Latin
20 Romanticas de Hoy y Siempre de la Inspiracion Various Artists Sony International Latin
Puro Duranguenses, Vol. 1 Various Artists EMI International Latin
Viva la Revolucion! ... Various Artists EMI International Latin
Duetos Nortenos Various Artists EMI International Latin
Collection: That's the Way of the World/All 'N All Earth, Wind & Fire Sony R&B
Live in Las Vegas Macy Gray Nutech Digital R&B
Live in Las Vegas [Clean] Macy Gray Nutech Digital R&B
Hit Songs of Percy Sledge Percy Sledge Curb R&B
Hit Songs of Percy Sledge Percy Sledge Curb R&B
Lifestyle 310 West Gang Aries Music Rap
Lillian Alias/Ehren Anticon Rap
Califas Connected Califas Connected Aries Music Rap
That One Way [Clean] Czarnok Capitol Rap
That One Way Czarnok Capitol Rap
Hood Stories [Chopped and Screwed] Dirty Rap-A-Lot (Wea) Rap
Hood Hustlin': The Mix Tape, Vol. 2 DJ Squeeky & Nino Presents La Conecta Rap
Ghettoville: The Soundtracks Eightball & MJG SBR Rap
Hear After J-Live Penalty (Ryko) Rap
Late Registration Kanye West Roc-A-Fella RAP
Whaaat!!! Okaaay!!! [DualDisc] Lil Jon & The East Side Boyz Madacy Rap
When Pigs Fly Los Chicharons Camo Bear RAP
Puro Rap en Espanol Los Soldados Aries Music Rap
Tekolotes Los Tumbados Aries Music Rap
4th Wish: To Sprinkle the World Lucky Luciano Dope House Rap
King of Flow M.R.P. Sony International Rap
25 to Life [Clean] P$C Atlantic Rap
25 to Life P$C Atlantic Rap
Music of the Sun Rihanna Def Jam Rap
Presenta...Tirando y Rifando Spanky Loco Aries Music Rap
Loco Life Spanky Loco Aries Music Rap
Thoughts of a Predicate Felon [Clean] Tony Yayo Interscope Rap
Thoughts of a Predicate Felon Tony Yayo Interscope Rap
Beautiful Lie 30 Seconds to Mars Virgin ROCK
Terminate Damnation Becoming the Archetype Tooth & Nail Rock
Collection: Piano Man/52nd Street/Kohuept: Live in Billy Joel Sony Rock
Bootleg Series, Vol. 7: No Direction Home - Soundt Bob Dylan Sony Rock
Collection: Oh, Mercy/Time Out of Mind/Love and Th Bob Dylan Sony Rock
Collection, Vol. 4: Nashville Skyline/New Morning/ Bob Dylan Sony Rock
Collection, Vol. 2: Freewheelin' Bob Dylan/Times T Bob Dylan Sony Rock
Collection, Vol. 3: Blonde on Blonde/Blood on the Bob Dylan Sony Rock
Pointless Shoes Boy from Brazil Tigerbeat6 Rock
Collection, Vol. 2: Nebraska/Lucky Town/In Concert Bruce Springsteen Sony Rock
Collection: Really Rosie/Music/Tapestry [2005 Reis Carole King Sony Rock
Different Kind of Pain Cold Lava ROCK
Plans Death Cab for Cutie Atlantic Rock
12 Estados de Animo El Canto del Loco Sony International Rock
Back Home Eric Clapton Warner Bros. Rock
Facing New York Facing New York Five One Inc Rock
Abandon Your Friends From Autumn to Ashes Vagrant Rock
Best Of [Curb] Gerry & The Pacemakers Curb ROCK
Love What You Do Hackensaw Boys Nettwerk Rock
Maddogs and Okies Jamie Oldaker Concord Rock
Generations Journey King Japan Rock
Collection: Escape/Frontiers/Infinity [2005 Reissu Journey Sony Rock
Ministry of Archers Joy Electric Tooth & Nail Rock
Random Order Juliet Virgin Rock
Up to My Old Tricks Again Kim Lenz Hightone Rock
Oh No OK Go Capitol Rock
Healthy in Paranoid Times Our Lady Peace Sony ROCK
Invisible Invasion The Coral Sony Rock
Three Moods of the... The Noisettes Low Altitude Rock
Absolutely the Best of the 70's, Vol. 2 Various Artists Fuel 2000 Rock
Austin City Limits Festival Various Artists Rhino Rock
Rock of Ages [Madacy] Various Artists Madacy Christian Rock
Casey Kasem Presents: America's Top Ten - The 70's Various Artists Top Sail Rock
Sisters of the Red Death Vendetta Red Sony ROCK
Mi Platano Maduro Elvis y la Banda Loca Classe EMI International World
Massage Jorge Alfano Living Arts World
12 Trancazos Los Cadetes de Linares Sony International World
Salsaton 2005 Various Artists Sony International World

Good luck reading that. :lol:

Here's the link, though it'll only work temporarily:
http://www.billboard.com/bb/releases/week_5/index.jsp

Axtech · Post by **Axtech** » 8/29/2005, 8:28 am

Why does Bob Dylan have 5 albums coming out tomorrow? :wtf:

nikki4982 · Post by **nikki4982** » 8/29/2005, 8:31 am

I don't know. A bunch of people have multiples. I think they're archival type bootleg dealies.

nikki4982 · Post by **nikki4982** » 8/29/2005, 8:32 am

Oh, and in case anyone missed it, our very own Lil Jon has a new release coming out tomorrow...

Whaaat!!! Okaaay!!! [DualDisc] Lil Jon & The East Side Boyz Madacy Rap

Holy crap that's a great title.

Hope · Post by **Hope** » 8/29/2005, 4:41 pm

Tattooed Angels · Post by **Tattooed Angels** » 8/29/2005, 5:39 pm

you know there isnt a real big push here in the NY area at least for this CD..

I have sasid this many times. They never have any thing up for OLP around in the cirty. Every person under the sun yes, but not OLP. I swear the powers that be do not like them here. What makes it bad is SONY is here in NYC.. Go figure. I also loved how these girls said OLP are not real big in LA. Are they kidding. There was a huge ad for them on the side of Whiskey for the cd. i haven't to see that in NY.

I say it probably will take awhile to hit the charts.. As long as it sells it wil be good. Postion isn't that big a deal. True some people are huge in the top ten, but can yo honestly name every cd that was in teh top 10 this year.. yet we can name the big cd's.

naveed99 · Post by **naveed99** » 8/29/2005, 5:46 pm

Completely different scenerio here iN canada.

I live in Sudbury, about 3 hours north of toronto, you'd be hard pressed to find a single person who hasnt heard of OLP. A large amount are fans.

Hope · Post by **Hope** » 8/29/2005, 6:51 pm

yeah exactly. while i havent seen any uber-obsessed fans, a lot of people i know own clumsy and spiritual machines..

afealicious · Post by **afealicious** » 8/29/2005, 7:19 pm

naveed99 wrote:Completely different scenerio here iN canada.

I live in Sudbury, about 3 hours north of toronto, you'd be hard pressed to find a single person who hasnt heard of OLP. A large amount are fans.

i know a total of one person in my entire school who knew them before i started being obsessed and spreading the word. it's depressing.

Driven · Post by **Driven** » 8/30/2005, 3:24 pm

No way is it gonna be below 50. I voted for 11-20, but I do think it will outsell Gravity in the early going as well as in the long run.

There's just more anticipation and more a fan base then before.

And it's not like Where Are You isn't getting any airplay in the U.S.

Dread · Post by **Dread** » 8/30/2005, 4:03 pm

Between 17-22. If it breaks below #50, consider it a bomb here in the U.S., particularly since the success of the last record.