NEW OLP SONGS!!!!!!!!

[nelison]

I hate people who even mention having an album and not sharing it. We've (I've ) waited years for this album.......and obviously 95% of people on this board will buy the album no matter w hat..so you aren't protecting sales..because it will be a large scale leak wi thin the weak..........obviously..................I like how people with the album now are just honestly fucking hardcore fans over. If I ever have a band that was famous i'd leak mly cd to fans first on purpose because they deserve the music before anyone else..not only becuase they will buy it first and foremost..but because THEY ARE the reason the music can exist in the first place and we'd be tnothing without them.

There would be no HIPT without US the core fans..........Share the album now and contribute to this community before teh ever yday joe puts it on a torrent site.

A couple things. You are not special. This band and any band can still exist without you as a fan, and without any of us as fans. And for the record, CD's aren't made for fans. They're made for people who don't usually buy their music. That's why you release a single months before the album comes out and that's how you make money. Unless you're U2 or Dave Matthews you don't have a large enough fan base to reap financial benefits, so you release a single hoping to get people to buy the album who normally wouldn't have paid attention to OLP.

Secondly, the band wants the album released at the end of the month. If they wanted it released now they would have released it. You have no right to that music. No one does. Not until that day. How would you feel if you were the band? Your hard work being released without you knowing it weeks before you want it to be released. It's a shame that people like you are so selfish to think that you deserve this music before the band wants you to have it. Don't think that this leak wouldn't affect album sales. If people have the music available to them for free, they will gladly do so, especially if they aren't a "hardcore" fan.

So go piss off. The album isn't being leaked here for a reason and if you were such a true "hardcore" fan you would respect the band and their wishes.

[naveed99]

I have to agree with you on that. It seems as if this leak is fairly large, because I've checked on the internet, and many people have it or know about the leak. Even around here, a lot of people are coming on either asking for a leak or saying they have a leaked version. I really think that this will hurt the band in the long term. For the majority who aren't hardcore fans, once you have a leaked version, many will not even bother buying the album, which will end up affecting the band.

Even for the band, I would be angry to know that the music which took like 2 years to make is being passed around illegally.

All i know is that this leak is very big, and many people already have the album, and it is not difficult to come by anymore. I think its best for the band jsut to wait, and if you have a leaked copy, dont pass it around. We wouldnt want OLP to become too affected by any dumb leak after all they went through...

[xjsb125]

A couple things. You are not special. This band and any band can still exist without you as a fan, and without any of us as fans. And for the record, CD's aren't made for fans. They're made for people who don't usually buy their music. That's why you release a single months before the album comes out and that's how you make money. Unless you're U2 or Dave Matthews you don't have a large enough fan base to reap financial benefits, so you release a single hoping to get people to buy the album who normally wouldn't have paid attention to OLP.

Secondly, the band wants the album released at the end of the month. If they wanted it released now they would have released it. You have no right to that music. No one does. Not until that day. How would you feel if you were the band? Your hard work being released without you knowing it weeks before you want it to be released. It's a shame that people like you are so selfish to think that you deserve this music before the band wants you to have it. Don't think that this leak wouldn't affect album sales. If people have the music available to them for free, they will gladly do so, especially if they aren't a "hardcore" fan.

So go piss off. The album isn't being leaked here for a reason and if you were such a true "hardcore" fan you would respect the band and their wishes.

Good post Jim. You, Nikki, and Josh have covered everything I wanted to say.

[Henrietta]

That's very true. We don't know that many of these people will buy the album. I don't think that I would share it with anyone who I wasn't sure would go buy it. I love getting accused by people who come here and freak out at us for not sharing. I have no relationship with you.

[Kaegan]

I have to say I agree with you guys about what you said in response to Esotarious. But, I'd also like to add that it would be great if there were someway to let the dedicated fans experience the album before those who would normally not purchase it. I know it's not feasible, and not foolproof, and it would not work. But it certainly would be cool for the fans to experience it before everyone else. Of course, this is not possible, so we have to wait with everyone else. We can say though that we definitely do get treated. I'm sure those who like OLP but don't take the time to follow them certainly haven't heard those clips that were released months ago. They also didn't get to meet up with Duncan (of course that's if you were lucky enough to have made the meet up). I think we get lots of treats, and I don't deny that most of us on the board here would buy the album reguardless of whether we thought it was their best, or if we had it already. But I think our best bet is just to wait 2 more weeks. It'll be here before we know it. I'm excited, but I don't want to be because I go back to school a week later, haha!

[SaturdayNightz]

I have to agree with you on that. It seems as if this leak is fairly large, because I've checked on the internet, and many people have it or know about the leak. Even around here, a lot of people are coming on either asking for a leak or saying they have a leaked version. I really think that this will hurt the band in the long term. For the majority who aren't hardcore fans, once you have a leaked version, many will not even bother buying the album, which will end up affecting the band.

Even for the band, I would be angry to know that the music which took like 2 years to make is being passed around illegally.

All i know is that this leak is very big, and many people already have the album, and it is not difficult to come by anymore. I think its best for the band jsut to wait, and if you have a leaked copy, dont pass it around. We wouldnt want OLP to become too affected by any dumb leak after all they went through...

But remember one thing tho man, You still have that percentage of people who grab leaked albums listen to them and decide if the album is good enough to buy...I'll admit, I did that with the last album I bought..Staind's Chapter V, downloaded it, loved it...then purchased it, after all, I'd rather have the real copy of the album than a blank disc with the groups name on it written in black marker..

[Henrietta]

I think we get treated pretty well as fans. Alot better than fans of other groups.

[nelison]

I have to agree with you on that. It seems as if this leak is fairly large, because I've checked on the internet, and many people have it or know about the leak. Even around here, a lot of people are coming on either asking for a leak or saying they have a leaked version. I really think that this will hurt the band in the long term. For the majority who aren't hardcore fans, once you have a leaked version, many will not even bother buying the album, which will end up affecting the band.

Even for the band, I would be angry to know that the music which took like 2 years to make is being passed around illegally.

All i know is that this leak is very big, and many people already have the album, and it is not difficult to come by anymore. I think its best for the band jsut to wait, and if you have a leaked copy, dont pass it around. We wouldnt want OLP to become too affected by any dumb leak after all they went through...

But remember one thing tho man, You still have that percentage of people who grab leaked albums listen to them and decide if the album is good enough to buy...I'll admit, I did that with the last album I bought..Staind's Chapter V, downloaded it, loved it...then purchased it, after all, I'd rather have the real copy of the album than a blank disc with the groups name on it written in black marker..

But for every one person that buys/downloads just to get a sample of what a cd is like, there are 50 people who download and don't go out and buy it.

[pit_girl1]

A couple things. You are not special. This band and any band can still exist without you as a fan, and without any of us as fans. And for the record, CD's aren't made for fans. They're made for people who don't usually buy their music. That's why you release a single months before the album comes out and that's how you make money. Unless you're U2 or Dave Matthews you don't have a large enough fan base to reap financial benefits, so you release a single hoping to get people to buy the album who normally wouldn't have paid attention to OLP.

Secondly, the band wants the album released at the end of the month. If they wanted it released now they would have released it. You have no right to that music. No one does. Not until that day. How would you feel if you were the band? Your hard work being released without you knowing it weeks before you want it to be released. It's a shame that people like you are so selfish to think that you deserve this music before the band wants you to have it. Don't think that this leak wouldn't affect album sales. If people have the music available to them for free, they will gladly do so, especially if they aren't a "hardcore" fan.

So go piss off. The album isn't being leaked here for a reason and if you were such a true "hardcore" fan you would respect the band and their wishes.

Amen. I agree completely.

[Bob the Breaker]

I hate people who even mention having an album and not sharing it. We've (I've ) waited years for this album.......and obviously 95% of people on this board will buy the album no matter w hat..so you aren't protecting sales..because it will be a large scale leak wi thin the weak..........obviously..................I like how people with the album now are just honestly fucking hardcore fans over. If I ever have a band that was famous i'd leak mly cd to fans first on purpose because they deserve the music before anyone else..not only becuase they will buy it first and foremost..but because THEY ARE the reason the music can exist in the first place and we'd be tnothing without them.

There would be no HIPT without US the core fans..........Share the album now and contribute to this community before teh ever yday joe puts it on a torrent site.

i hate people who complain about people who have the new album and aren't sharing it. i've waited years to hoard this album from the CM.... 83% of the people on this board have fewer than 10 total posts.. so i have no idea what the hell they would do if they got a leaked copy. i know some with more posts that probably wouldn't buy it but would download it if i offered it to them. i like how people who keep complaining are just honestly taking away from the hardcore fans ability to enjoy the leaked album. if i ever had a famous band, id spit at the kids in the second row at my concerts because theyre the ones that really wanted to be front row but didnt quite make it. ha ha! im the reason theyd be at the concert in the first place and they can live with my spit in their faces and hair.

[Esotarious]

Alright first of all sorry about the angry post...we had a meeting at work last night..and working at a bar leads to having drinks after the meeting.

BUT that said...the band doesn't care WHEN the cd comes out. They don't even really have that much of a say. It's all figured out by marketing departments and what not.

I also like how you say "you are not special". I think OLP would be extremely angry with that comment because they truly treasure their fans...without fans there would be no sixth album or tour etc.

I'm also not going to say a large scale leak (while inevitible) wouldn't hurt sales, but in the long run especially in the states OLP isn't nearly large enough to create a lot of demand which also leads into the reason that a massive leak hasn't occurred....most people in the states don't even know they have an album coming out.

Lastly, i'm just trying to say that fans should help other fans out. I'm really too busy to go torrent searching all day for an album. I'm definitely not saying hand the album out to everyone, but I think anyone who frequents this board should be able to get it because we are all going to buy the album...and i'm going to surmise that most of us will even treat ourselves to the dualdisc version of the album..i kn ow I will.

Okay one more thing..sorry I know the industry...OLP DOES make money on their worldwide record sales. Not a lot, but they do. Touring is their bread and butter but OLP is obviously popular in Canada and moderately popular around the world so that any album sales above 500,000 or so gets them to a break even point typically. I'm not going to say that for this album just because it took them so long to make it and god only knows what the cost of being in the studio that much was.

So basically..i'm sorry..but i'm not.

[afealicious]

look, the band obviously does care when it's released, otherwise we wouldn't be requested not to share it. the fact is, nothing you say will make us share it here or on the hub. so if you want it early, just get it somewhere else and quit arguing.

[faninor]

If you put those on the internet, I'll kill you guys!

[Kaegan]

When did Jeremy write that?

[SaturdayNightz]

..but in the long run especially in the states OLP isn't nearly large enough to create a lot of demand which also leads into the reason that a massive leak hasn't occurred....most people in the states don't even know they have an album coming out.

Actually thats not true....visit some message boards for groups like Foo Fighter, 30STM, I've been quite surprised at how much knowledge the people in the States have regarding this new album...message board after message board they seem to be up-to-date.

[egotist]

Getting mad about the album leaking is like crying over spilled milk. These things leak the same way every single time. Either at the CD processing plant or via a review copy and once its out, its out. Fans want music, and natural instinct for most will be to take it if its presented to them. As consumers we're conditioned to anticipate new releases so folks can hardly be surprised when consumers go out of their way to score their forbidden fruit.

That said, I think its commendable that the folks here are doing their part to stem the tide of piracy here. The band has historicaly been very protective of its fanbase, and obviously that relationship goes both ways.

This isn't about "fans helping out other fans" or which fans are more special than others. Its so beside the point. OLP have mouths to feed and payroll to make. I don't suppose anyone here will steal the album, but I don't think it would be good if we just trusted everyone blindly.

If you really want to find this album ahead of time, you'll get your hands on it eventually. Its out there now. I just don't think anyone should have a sense of entitlement. OLP have made great music and done great shows, they don't owe anyone, anything.

For crying out loud, if you have the album, enjoy it. You're really clever that you got it in advance. If you don't have it, quit your whining. Its out in a few weeks, and if you really apply yourself, you can find it using one of the more traditional methods of file sharing.

[nelison]

BUT that said...the band doesn't care WHEN the cd comes out. They don't even really have that much of a say. It's all figured out by marketing departments and what not.

This may be the case but the band still has every right to hold people to that date. If they were given the choice of having it released when it's supposed to, or when it isn't I'm about 99% sure they would prefer it was released when it was supposed to.

I also like how you say "you are not special". I think OLP would be extremely angry with that comment because they truly treasure their fans...without fans there would be no sixth album or tour etc.

Do you know OLP? I mean seriously do you hang with them? Do you talkto them? or is this based on sound bites and articles? Unless you know them personally you don't have a clue what you're talking about. Let's say per chance you do know them and they tell you everyday how special you are. Do you think that if you didn't exist they would cease as a band? Do you think that if the thousands of us who are fans didn't exist that they wouldn't exist?

Considering the band got it's break not because of a built up fanbase and popularity, but rather a dad who got his son a record deal, something tells me that fans aren't as integral to the band as they would be for most.

I'm also not going to say a large scale leak (while inevitible) wouldn't hurt sales, but in the long run especially in the states OLP isn't nearly large enough to create a lot of demand which also leads into the reason that a massive leak hasn't occurred....most people in the states don't even know they have an album coming out.

Which may be true in the USA but in Canada it's a huge deal. They are among the top 2 or 3 acts in Canada and to have their album released here prior to the date they expected it to be released is a huge deal. Stop thinking that the USA is the be all and end all. Most Canadian acts don't give a damn about American success, but they do care about having control over their art.

Lastly, i'm just trying to say that fans should help other fans out. I'm really too busy to go torrent searching all day for an album. I'm definitely not saying hand the album out to everyone, but I think anyone who frequents this board should be able to get it because we are all going to buy the album...and i'm going to surmise that most of us will even treat ourselves to the dualdisc version of the album..i kn ow I will.

The problem with this, which if you were around here when Gravity came out you would know about is that hundreds upon hundreds of people signed up because you could get the album through here. It's why there are a thousand people at least who have less than 2 posts. Anyone can come on here, grab the album and then sell it on the streets. Personally, I think anyone on this board should be more considerate of OLP. Not other fans.

Okay one more thing..sorry I know the industry...OLP DOES make money on their worldwide record sales. Not a lot, but they do. Touring is their bread and butter but OLP is obviously popular in Canada and moderately popular around the world so that any album sales above 500,000 or so gets them to a break even point typically. I'm not going to say that for this album just because it took them so long to make it and god only knows what the cost of being in the studio that much was.

Yes they make some money. Just because they make some money doesn't make it right to release their work before it should be released. I guarentee you that any leak of any album probably costs the band at least a possible 10% of album sales. And even that's a conservative estimate.

I would hope that true OLP fans will wait until it is meant to be released. If you have any respect for the band it's the right thing to do. If I was in the band I'd be upset with any fan who didn't respect my work and decided to pass it off to others without it being paid for.

[closeyoureyes]

I agree with Jim. OLP decided to release the album on August 30th, and no one, NO ONE, however special you might think you are, is entitled to listen to it before then.

[afealicious]

pwn'd,

pwn'd,

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[VazValium]

all this hate over the new olp album . where is all the happiness and love?