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Post by SpiritualJunkie »

Someone said earlier that Raine openly admitted that he was an atheist. When did he say that?

Anyway, looks like his recent visit to Darfur and his involvement with WarChild have caused him to do some soul-searching.
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yeah, i agree. especially after i saw that article in fridays national post. i stole it from my moms office. he seems to be ... well it seems he did some self reflection and ...stuff.
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:lol: I can't help but wonder if the band wanted us to have this exact discussion about the tracklist papers. There's gotta be a reason Stace filmed them like that... I bet it's an evil plot of some sort. :nod:

Stace? Care to speak up for yourself? ;)
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SpiritualJunkie wrote:Someone said earlier that Raine openly admitted that he was an atheist. When did he say that?

Anyway, looks like his recent visit to Darfur and his involvement with WarChild have caused him to do some soul-searching.


Don't know for sure about that or not - but I seem to remember some surprise when he wore a cross on the Gravity album.
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the cd to have as many songs as possible, you know what the say the more then merrier, although if they were only to have like 11 songs again, that would still be cool...........they should bring "Sol" back on the covers, that would be cool.
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nikki4982 wrote::lol: I can't help but wonder if the band wanted us to have this exact discussion about the tracklist papers. There's gotta be a reason Stace filmed them like that... I bet it's an evil plot of some sort. :nod:

Stace? Care to speak up for yourself? ;)


ah ha!.. u didnt kno i was psychic??

theres definately a reason why those first 4 songs are "closed off". partly, im guessing for the fact that 2 of them have been around for a good 18 months. as i saw Talk Is Cheap and Not Afraid in one show back in March 2003. so maybe they put them up there just to add to the list of new ones

WTSOYF was written for political reasons as we all know, and was never intended for the album... but yeah. the 2nd papaer does look to be maybe the final peice?? 12 songs..

although, this entire discussion is quite irrelevant as songs names really have no meaning at all. lol
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I bet we're all wrong and the songs are actually seperated by what day of the week they were written on.

I don't remember Raine ever claiming to be an athiest, but If I'm right he's said that he's not catholic and that his views on religion are very different than his parents'.
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Right, that sounds more like what he said. :nod:
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Actually raine said he's a buddhist monk in one interview. He just wears a wig.
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i wear a wig
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:wtf:
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Johnny, they're foreign.
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Ah yes. Crazy foreign n00bs.
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foreigners wear wigs?
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I guess they do, since you wear one!
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AnnieDreams wrote:I bet we're all wrong and the songs are actually seperated by what day of the week they were written on.


:lol:

i honestly won't be surprised if you're right.
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RANDOM QUESTION: is there any truth to a story that i heard that "Innocent" was suppsoed to actually be called "Arrogant?" my friend told me the other day that it was originally Arrogant...
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Not that I have heard of.

Sounds fake to me.


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kermit__35 wrote:RANDOM QUESTION: is there any truth to a story that i heard that "Innocent" was suppsoed to actually be called "Arrogant?" my friend told me the other day that it was originally Arrogant...


I remember reading or watching something where Raine said the original name... but arrogant doesn't ring a bell..
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Sonya wrote:
AnnieDreams wrote:I bet we're all wrong and the songs are actually seperated by what day of the week they were written on.


:lol:

i honestly won't be surprised if you're right.


Gee, I wish I had said that a long time ago... :P
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