Bush & the draft: do Americans believe him?

egotist · Post by **egotist** » 10/22/2004, 3:49 pm

I've been following the election pretty closely and wanted to throw this one out to any Americans in the community who consume US media. Up here in Canada, I don't get the same perception you folks do, but do people where you are actually believe a word Bush says about not having a draft?

This representative from Ohio, seems to have my sentiment down pat:

I rise in opposition of this bill, but I would like to clarify something. We are not trying to scare kids. This President's foreign policy is what is scaring the kids of this country. And people have said today, why are people believing this? Why are people believing this big Internet hoax?

It is the same people who told us that Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9/11; the same people who told us Saddam Hussein had something to do with weapons of mass destruction; the same people who told us we would be able to use the oil for reconstruction money; the same people who told us we would be greeted as liberators, not occupiers; the same people, the same President who told us the Taliban is gone; the same President who told us that Poland is our ally 2 days before they pull out; the same President who tells us Iraq is going just great; the same President who tells us the economy is going just great; the same people who told us the tax cuts were going to create millions of jobs; the same people who told us that the Medicare program only cost $400 billion when it really cost $540 billion.

So please forgive us for believing what you are saying. Please forgive the students of this country for not believing what you are saying. Not one thing, not one thing about this war that has been told to the American people or that has been told to these college students has been true. Not one thing. Bremer says we need more troops. The Pentagon says we need more troops, and this President cannot get them from the international community. There is only one option left. Let us be honest with the American people.

http://timryan.house.gov/HoR/OH17/Hidde ... Speech.htm

Anybody care to comment?

Axtech · Post by **Axtech** » 10/22/2004, 3:57 pm

Bush: We will not have an all volunteer army!
...
(You see, the crowd wants to cheer, because they signed a contract saying they would, but what do they do? Correct the president)
...
Crowd: You mean "we will"!
Bush: We will have an all volunteer army!
Crowd: *cheers*

<3 Daily Show

Corey · Post by **Corey** » 10/22/2004, 6:13 pm

I am confident there will NOT be a draft.

Kerry also has plans to make the military bigger but nobody accuses him of plans for a draft.

Joanne · Post by **Joanne** » 10/22/2004, 6:20 pm

There isn't gonna be a draft. Silly lefty media.

closeyoureyes · Post by **closeyoureyes** » 10/22/2004, 6:31 pm

But at the same time, Kerry doesnt have plans to go to war with everywhere thats got something the Gov't needs. The same can't be said for Bush.

Long Jonny · Post by **Long Jonny** » 10/22/2004, 7:06 pm

Axtech wrote:Bush: We will not have an all volunteer army!
...
(You see, the crowd wants to cheer, because they signed a contract saying they would, but what do they do? Correct the president)
...
Crowd: You mean "we will"!
Bush: We will have an all volunteer army!
Crowd: *cheers*

<3 Daily Show

damn, you beat me.

Corey · Post by **Corey** » 10/22/2004, 8:16 pm

It is nothing more than a scare tactic to get votes. Much like how the Republicans insist that if Kerry wins we'll see more terrorist attacks. Same thing with the stem-cell research debate. Edwards actually claimed that if you vote for them, people will leap out of their wheelchairs. We don't even know that stem-cell research will lead to a cure, let alone would there be one in the near future.

Both sides are playing on fears to buy votes.

Corey · Post by **Corey** » 10/22/2004, 8:17 pm

Sine wrote:But at the same time, Kerry doesnt have plans to go to war with everywhere thats got something the Gov't needs. The same can't be said for Bush.

It can't?

reza · Post by **reza** » 10/22/2004, 10:31 pm

i don't think that bush will impose a draft for one simple reason: he doesn't want to fuck things up for the republican after him.

ang going with sinead with the whole kerry declaring war thing- totally agree with you. bush has had every reason to go to war in afghanistan but he should have done it in a different manner. there should not be fueding warlords in afghanistan fueding over land. there should not be women selling their ballots to make some money, and there certainly shouldn't be a pipeline running through afghanistan without consent of whoever the people elect.
iraq on the other hand, is wrong no matter how you look at it.

Bandalero · Post by **Bandalero** » 10/22/2004, 11:35 pm

it's ironic because it's democrats that are bringing the bills to the senate and the house.

they won't pass either one.