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Postby I AM ME » 10/14/2004, 1:39 am

Sad, very sad. But's it's not the first time i've heard such things, apparently international schools teach several things diffrently then American ones when it comes to history as well.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1008-05.htm
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good

"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good

I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.

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Postby happening fish » 10/14/2004, 11:33 am

Every country teaches history its own way and through its own biases. It's always been this way and probably always will.

My mom went to highschool in communist Romania and learned that Lenin was a kindly father figure. Now, this is an expected thing from our point of view. But, when she moved to Canada for grade 11, she was shocked to realize that the history they were teaching here had equally ridiculous lies in it. I suppose it can't really be helped that countries are going to teach things as they see them.
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Postby I AM ME » 10/18/2004, 2:53 am

"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good

"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good

I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.

"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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Postby I AM ME » 10/18/2004, 2:56 am

"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good

"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good

I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.

"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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Postby Corey » 10/18/2004, 6:27 am

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Postby nelison » 10/18/2004, 9:36 am

It's actually quite the opposite here. We actually get taught how great our socialist programs are. So many times I would hear about our "free" health care but very few people acknowledge at least up until grade 12 that the health care comes out of their taxes, and therefore isn't free.

I don't believe Canadian schools are superior, but I believe we have less of a gap in our public schools. What I mean by that is that the American public system (at least from what I've seen of it, and that's only from Buffalo, New York) seems to be hit or miss with its schools. Some are great with computers and everything but others seem very neglected. Our schools seem to be consistent wherever you go.

By no means do I think one is better than the other but I think Canada puts more money into its public schools whereas the USA puts more money into it's colleges. Please, correct me if I'm wrong but that's my understanding.
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Postby Corey » 10/18/2004, 10:28 am

J-Neli, I would agree with your assessment that in the US you will see some schools that are decked out and others that are run down. That is what the "No Child Left Behind" act is SUPPOSED to fix [but didn't].
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Postby xjsb125 » 10/18/2004, 3:33 pm

From the Chris Rock movie "Head of State" :

Mayes: If your school has old books and new metal detectors, lemme hear ya say "that ain't right!"

Crowd: "THAT AIN'T RIGHT!"

Mayes: It ain't right. That shit is not right!
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Postby Joe Cooler » 10/18/2004, 5:49 pm

I know this may be old hat at this point in the conversation but take Japan for example. In a Japanese History book you'll find one paragraph about World War II. The country is down right ashamed of it, therefore the Japanese dont learn about it. The paragraph basically tells you the day Japan attacked the United States, the dates the atomic bombs were dropped and the day the war ended.
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Postby Hope » 10/19/2004, 9:11 pm

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to here knows when

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Postby I AM ME » 10/22/2004, 12:37 am

"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good

"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

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"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good

I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.

"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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Postby Rusty » 10/23/2004, 6:11 pm


Queens Of The Stone Age-Someone's In The Wolf

Once you're lost in twillights's blue
You don't find your way, the way finds you...

Tempt the fates, beware the smile
It hides all the teeth, my dear,
What's behind them...

So glad you could stay
Forever

He steps between the trees, a crooked man
There's blood on the blade
Don't take his hand

You warm by the firelight, in twilight's blue
Shadows creep & dance the walls
He's creeping too..

So glad you could stay
Forever


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Postby I AM ME » 10/24/2004, 1:46 am

Mine was called 'the Republic of America' or something like that
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good

"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good

I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.

"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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