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this isn't supposed to be a bush is evil thread.

first of all, there are no guarantees that he's going to be killed. this trial is not so much about saddam but about the hearts and minds of iraqis. this is their first look at the new government and the new system and the americans and new iraqi government want to make sure they get the desired reaction.

they've got to let the process run it's course and hope that the facts will support their case. if they rig the trial or ignore saddams rights in order to get a hurried conviction, the iraqi population is going to take note and ask themselves how the new government is any different from the old.
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:nod: well said doug.
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Can Saddam even get a fair trial? I don't think he can.
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it would be difficult

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i think he can

iraqis still see him as a sort of emperor-esque figure. if anything the early proceeding seem to be favoring him, as i said, he "bitchslapped" the court. nobody has any idea how to handle him now, so defiant and angry.

the americans are going to stay out of this one i think. I think Bush & co have had their fill of the middle east for a while. i think they want to get the fuck out and stay out for as long as possible.
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bush won't stay out, he wants to see saddam go down, because bush senior couldn't

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You're right because Bush Jr. does anything his daddy says. But when this whole Iraq thing is over and done, there will be some other reason to go the Middle East, whether it be suspicions of weapons of mass destruction or maybe just us stupid North Americans meddeling in Middle Eastern affairs like we always do.
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most likely the second one, under the disguise of the first one

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mosaik wrote:i think he can

iraqis still see him as a sort of emperor-esque figure. if anything the early proceeding seem to be favoring him, as i said, he "bitchslapped" the court. nobody has any idea how to handle him now, so defiant and angry.

the americans are going to stay out of this one i think. I think Bush & co have had their fill of the middle east for a while. i think they want to get the fuck out and stay out for as long as possible.


I agree that he handled himself well in court, but I think the USA will play too large of an indirect role in this. I mean honestly what would the US do if he was somehow found innocent, or only given a small sentence?
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mosaik wrote:i think he can

iraqis still see him as a sort of emperor-esque figure. if anything the early proceeding seem to be favoring him, as i said, he "bitchslapped" the court. nobody has any idea how to handle him now, so defiant and angry.

the americans are going to stay out of this one i think. I think Bush & co have had their fill of the middle east for a while. i think they want to get the fuck out and stay out for as long as possible.


I agree that he handled himself well in court, but I think the USA will play too large of an indirect role in this. I mean honestly what would the US do if he was somehow found innocent, or only given a small sentence?


that's easy, he'll be killed by a fellow prisoner, or he'll "commit suicide"

you'll be suprised just how many jail doors open in prison. one door that hold a serial killer and another door opens for a cop killer that only got life in prison.
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So are you saying that the US would have him killed while he was in prison for a short term?
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officially - no

unofficially - well, they'll never admit it.
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ya he'll be killed and there'll be a mass cover up just like with kennedy

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:uh:

...or they'll just say he commited suicide.
Whenever death may surprise us,
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if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.


Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
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it would still be a mass cover up though

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cover ups require hiding something from people, who's going to be looking for the truth about saddam?
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Doesn't that make you angry that the people you have elected in to power would support a hitman's work on Saddam?
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no, but it makes me angry that all this is being pulled out of someone's ass and we're treating it as fact.
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cover ups do happen

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yeah? what does that prove?
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