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Exactly, so why does this one all the sudden get special attention? Because it's an act of terrorism.
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that was not an act of terrorism, it was an act of rage, disgustedness, and retaliation
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Define Terrorism for me

not text book but what you consider to be terrorism
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"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good

"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good

I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.

"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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70x7 wrote:Because obviously Bush called them up and asked them to pesaonlly abuse those prisoners, I'm sure that's how it heppened :roll:


its called an executive order, from the comander in chief (President)
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Terrorist acts can be small. I haven't watched it because it was too gory, but it seems like one to me.
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what in your oppinion is terrorism though? what would you classify it as so you can decide what it and what isn't. Republcans throw the word around to much that all Americans use it but none quite understand it,it's just so mystical bad word
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good

"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good

I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.

"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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Sort of like evil? There are all sorts of things that could be terrorist actions. Sending tapes to the US of them klling civilians would be terrorist. That's a tricky question, I'm going to have to ponder exactly how I would define terrorism.
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unfortuantly terrorism does not mean something evil. But i didn't ask you for a text book answer, just your own so i won't cut you apart.

So you would consider blowing up a building filled with innocents terrorism?
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good

"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good

I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.

"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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I AM ME wrote:did you see american's raping vietnamese on the news, did you see them shooting women?


where there digital cameras back then? how big were cameras back then, and how was the film developed back then? how many people will actually see the content of pictures from the vietnam era? how many can see it now, conisdering that all you really have to do now is take a snap and put it on the internet in a matter of 5 minutes.

i was watching that o'riely guy the other day, and he was showing a video of some rich ass gang kids raising hell in vegas somewhere. and he went on to bitch about how society is so violent and the kids don't have respect, then he went on further to say back in the day, the kids back when he was young wern't doing that.

now you and i both know damn well they were doing that and much more. the only difference is that we have millions of ways to report the news and because guys like oriely have nothing better to do but to sit back and shake their finger in the young's faces.
Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.


Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
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No, I didn't mean terrorism is sort of like evil. I meant terrorism is a fishy word, sort of like the word evil. The reason I'm pondering it is because I know you weren't asking for a texbook answer. But, terrorism IS evil. Unfortunately.

I disagree, I think that the generations HAVE gotten worse, and the continue to get worse, as far as respect goes. He was probably a hell of alot more disrespectful than the generation before him.
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so is blowing up a building full of innocent terrorism?
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good

"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good

I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.

"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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Can be.
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can be?

what kinda of answer is that?

is driving something into a building filled with innocents terroroism?
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good

"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good

I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.

"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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It's an answer, because all things have different circumstances.
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that is sooo not true, kids were running liquor accross from canada, now a days they're running drugs from mexico, he'll turn a blind eye to what his fellow age groups was doing but will be critical to our age group because it was reported and back in his time it wasn't. how many people his age started riots and raised hell because they saw a black man walking down the street? but now, since U of H wins a National Championship (hey, it's gonna happed godammit!) and i decide to climb up the goalpost at the school while others rush the field, guys his age look at us and consider what were doing barbaric, while they look at the past as a glorious time. they can be furious that they didn't see elvis shake his hips, but when we demand that our musicians should not be censored, we cant. it's crap cass, pure 100% crap.
Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.


Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
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mainly cicumstanses being???
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good

"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good

I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.

"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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Every situation has a different circumastce.
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But he's laid it out quite clearly... A building of innocents.
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Really? That's the only circumstance? Highly unlikely.
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Okay, then answer this: under what circumstances do you justify the destruction of a building full of innocent people?
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