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This was on the Canoe website http://jam.canoe.ca/JamMusic/mar31_cria-cp.html


CRIA loses in downloading case
By ANGELA PACIENZA
Canadian Press

TORONTO -- In what analysts are calling a "stunning" decision, the Federal Court has ruled against a motion which would have allowed the music industry to begin suing individuals who make music available online.

Justice Konrad von Finckenstein ruled Wednesday that the Canadian Recording Industry Association did not prove there was copyright infringement by 29 so-called music uploaders.

He said that downloading a song or making files available in shared directories, like those on Kazaa, does not constitute copyright infringement under the current Canadian law.

"No evidence was presented that the alleged infringers either distributed or authorized the reproduction of sound recordings," von Finckenstein wrote in his 28-page ruling. "They merely placed personal copies into their shared directories which were accessible by other computer users via a P2P service."

He compared the action to a photocopy machine in a library. "I cannot see a real difference between a library that places a photocopy machine in a room full of copyrighted material and a computer user that places a personal copy on a shared directory linked to a P2P service," he said.

The ruling sent shock waves through the industry and surprised copyright analysts.

"It raises questions of the viability of suing individual users in Canada under current Canadian copyright law," said Michael Geist, a professor at the University of Ottawa specializing in Internet and e-commerce law and technology counsel with the law firm Osler, Hoskin and Harcourt.

Geist, who called the decision "stunning," anticipates it will push the industry to increase its lobbying efforts for copyright reform in Canada.

Last month, the industry association took five Internet service providers to Federal Court, trying to force the companies to hand over the names and addresses of 29 people who allegedly shared hundreds of songs with others using programs like Kazaa last November and December.

The judge denied the recording industry's request, which means the five high-speed Internet providers -- Bell Canada, Shaw Communications, Telus Communications, Rogers Cable and Videotron -- won't have to divulge their client lists.

Without the names, CRIA can't begin filing lawsuits against 29 John and Jane Does who it alleges are high-volume music traders.

They're currently identifiable only through a numeric Internet protocol address and user handles like Jordana(at)KaZaA.

All the ISPs except Videotron have fought the order. Videotron had agreed to comply because owner Quebecor is also concerned about piracy in other parts of its business, which includes newspapers, television, Internet services and CDs.



:D Free Downloads for all!!
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This proves that the RIAA is more powerful than the CRIA.
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...or more power-hungry.

W007 for Canada. Freedom, and all that. \m/
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Why is your country so much better than ours?!?! It's just not fair. :crying:
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its all about the canadian lawyers.
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No....its all about Canada being obviously superior.
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the lawyers are superior, i'll give you that, if i get in trouble, i want a canadian lawyer to defend me. :P
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my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
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:P My Daddy's a Lawyer! :D
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*sings*

i neeeeeeeeeeeeeeed aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa canuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

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my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
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Random Name wrote:No....its all about Canada being obviously superior.


No. It shows that Canadian conglomerates aren't as savvy as American conglomerates. Careful. Johnson and Johnson will soon own your entire country.
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Bandalero.....you watch Family Guy don't ya...
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Dread wrote:
Random Name wrote:No....its all about Canada being obviously superior.


No. It shows that Canadian conglomerates aren't as savvy as American conglomerates. Careful. Johnson and Johnson will soon own your entire country.


actually it shows that copyright laws as they exist today need to be re-written to take copyright infringement from the standpoint of p2p filesharing

as the law currently stands, it is legal
that however will change in due time
go fuck yourself.
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The Other Matt wrote:Bandalero.....you watch Family Guy don't ya...


I was thinking that, too!

I neeeeed a jeeeeeew!

Ahh, the joys of unaired episodes...
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Axtech wrote:
The Other Matt wrote:Bandalero.....you watch Family Guy don't ya...


I was thinking that, too!

I neeeeed a jeeeeeew!

Ahh, the joys of unaired episodes...


That one's a funny un. All they had to do was dump the "killed our lord" bit and it would have been aired.
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Dread wrote:
Random Name wrote:No....its all about Canada being obviously superior.


No. It shows that Canadian conglomerates aren't as savvy as American conglomerates. Careful. Johnson and Johnson will soon own your entire country.



and you guys are going to have mcains up your asses.
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The Other Matt wrote:Bandalero.....you watch Family Guy don't ya...


damn right i do. everyday i open the freezer, i see the brocolli and i either punch it or throw the finger at it. stewie would be proud. :lol:
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let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.


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my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
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"Do you want some icecream?"
"Yes. But no sprinkles! For every sprinkle I find, I shall kill you!"
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Bobbo are you feelin alright?
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