smoking kills

starvingeyes · Post by **starvingeyes** » 2/17/2004, 2:28 pm

<img src ="http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/VIS.TEARS.ALL.AROUND.GIF">

but so does the government.

174,000,000 people since 1900.

Corey · Post by **Corey** » 2/17/2004, 2:58 pm

1. Is Democide even a word?
2. With guys like Hitler, Stalin, and Hussein, of course it does.

Neil · Post by **Neil** » 2/17/2004, 3:01 pm

Good point....

doug · Post by **doug** » 2/17/2004, 3:17 pm

all governments kill. it's a fact, corey.

Neil · Post by **Neil** » 2/17/2004, 3:17 pm

Thats kinda what Corey is trying to say, right??? I guess I'm just trying to make sure I'm understanding this, too.

Corey · Post by **Corey** » 2/17/2004, 3:21 pm

The scary thing is based on that graph, your chances of dying from smoking are only SLIGHTLY less than dying from something like a war. If anything, this graphic is actually making a case for people to stop smoking.

Corey · Post by **Corey** » 2/17/2004, 3:23 pm

doug wrote:all governments kill. it's a fact, corey.

so? to paraphrase you a little bit, the government is made up of men, the government isn't killing people, men are. Men are capable of doing whatever government can do. So men are going to kill people with or without government.

doug · Post by **doug** » 2/17/2004, 3:23 pm

far scarier material is availble on smoking.

Neil · Post by **Neil** » 2/17/2004, 3:25 pm

I smoke......but I really don't wanna :lol:

doug · Post by **doug** » 2/17/2004, 3:27 pm

i smoke.... i smoke punk bitches who get in my bidnezz!

I AM ME · Post by **I AM ME** » 2/17/2004, 11:47 pm

All people kill period. It's a part of humanity

starvingeyes · Post by **starvingeyes** » 2/18/2004, 11:24 am

174 million since 1900.

guess that wasn't such a great idea after all.

Corey · Post by **Corey** » 2/18/2004, 12:35 pm

Hey what are the numbers for people killed by wars without government?

thirdhour · Post by **thirdhour** » 2/20/2004, 12:05 am

^Interesting...I'd like to know too.

starvingeyes · Post by **starvingeyes** » 2/20/2004, 10:28 am

wars without government? i'm not sure i follow. all war is caused by government.

Corey · Post by **Corey** » 2/20/2004, 1:50 pm

are you trying to say war would not exist without government? prove it.

doug · Post by **doug** » 2/20/2004, 4:03 pm

well, corey, let's look at the iraq war. did "america" decide to invade, or did George Bush?

you're asking him to prove how human beings would act. that's impossible. but government has been behind every war in modern history. that we can prove.

Corey · Post by **Corey** » 2/20/2004, 4:28 pm

hey, I'm not the one who posted a made up graph about how many people "government" killed. So don't complain about how proving something is impossible when you post a silly image like that.

doug · Post by **doug** » 2/20/2004, 4:52 pm

that doesn't answer my post, but whatever.

made up image? they post their sources at the bottom of the graphic, corey... you can check it out yourself if you don't believe them.

doug · Post by **doug** » 2/20/2004, 5:16 pm

There are an abundance of other great reasons why democracy should be abolished. there is no justification for government.

however, "democide" refers to murders commited by the government outside the realm of war. the graph has a seperate line for war (OR homicide OR alcohol OR traf. accident)