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Well,
This thread reminded me of an essay i once wrote, involving donnie darko and the horrible book ringworld. I lucked out, with donnie darko, because it was so artistic and had a lot of "hidden meanings". But reading ringworld was the worst mistake i ever made. Anyhow it worked out okay, i believe i got 95% on the essay. YAYY
“A famous linguist once said… that of all the phrases in the English language, of all the endless combinations of words in all of history… that ‘Cellar Door’ is the most beautiful.” (Kelley 84) Richard Kelly’s Donnie Darko uses the imagery of a cellar door as the door to self-discovery or the foundation of what makes a person themselves. Donnie Darko and Larry Niven’s Ringworld are both works of science fiction that contain a strong theme of self-discovery. This is achieved through the main characters’ responses to unusual or frightening circumstances or events in their lives, their relationships with others and their educational and religious experiences. In both the Donnie Darko script and the Ringworld novel, the protagonists are on a quest for knowledge and understanding of how to deal with the difficult situations they face. Donnie Darko tells the story of a young man in search of a solution to a moral dilemma. Donnie becomes aware of impending doom through the appearance of an ‘imaginary’ rabbit named Frank. By following Frank outside, Donnie avoids being killed in a freak accident when an airplane engine crashes into his bedroom. However, subsequent events where his loved ones are killed because he has entered a tangent universe make Donnie realize that it would have been better if he had stayed in his room. Donnie wants to erase these tragic events and decides to travel back in time to reverse the course of events through his own self-sacrifice. In the novel Ringworld, the main character, Louis Wu, is on a quest to find a way to save the inhabitants of earth before the planet becomes uninhabitable in the future. He embarks on a long journey across the universe in a spaceship with three other crewmembers, two of which are alien creatures. It becomes a journey of discovery and self-discovery. They end up being trapped on the artificial world called Ringworld, which is composed of an enormous ring surrounding a distant sun. Eventually, Louis is able escape from Ringworld. It is Louis Wu’s predicament of being stranded on a foreign world or Donnie’s feeling of isolation that drives each character forward on their journey of self-discovery. Through their self-discovery, both Donnie and Louis are eventually able to make choices that offer solutions to their problems and allow them to help others. This understanding is obtained through dealing with difficult situations, their relationships with loved ones, friends and others, as well as through education and religion.
Education can be used in the process of self-discovery. For example, through the study of history, one can gain an understanding of what motivates people to act in certain ways. The historical figure, Hitler, and the events of World War II are infamous because of the atrocities that were committed as a result of extreme discrimination against people of different religions and races. Learning about these events can help develop a personal sense of morality. For Donnie Darko, it is his teacher’s “Life Line” exercise that helps him to clarify his own beliefs. The teacher hands out an assignment that requires students to evaluate different scenarios, such as “Johnny stole money” by placing an “x” on a line representing a spectrum of emotion from “Love” to “Fear”. Donnie refuses to complete the assignment because he does not agree with the belief that all of life’s emotions can be lumped into two categories. Through this exercise, Donnie discovers that he believes there are many other emotions such as pain, hate and anguish that influence a person’s actions. “I just don’t get this. Everything can’t be lumped into two categories. That’s too simple. …There are other things that need to be taken into account here. Like the whole spectrum of human emotion. ” (Richard Kelly 43). Although the purpose of the exercise may be to promote a view contrary to an individual’s beliefs, it can still be useful in helping to shape that individual’s morals. Donnie appears to be surer of his beliefs when he tries to defend them against his teacher’s. Another one of Donnie’s teachers introduces the idea of time travel. “So… according to Hawking… wormholes might be able to provide a short cut for jumping between two distant regions of space-time” (Kelly 46). Donnie discusses the concept of time travel with his teacher who lends him a book called The Philosophy of Time Travel by Roberta Sparrow. Through discussions with his teacher and by reading the book, Donnie begins to accept the possibility of time travel. However, it also raises the idea that if time travel is possible then God cannot predetermine a person’s life. “Then we would be given the choice to betray our chosen destinies. The very fact that this choice would exist… would mean that all preformed destiny would end.” (Kelly 77). Through the education Donny receives it increases his self-awareness, and he begins to ask more questions to satisfy his need to understand. The fact that the choice exists to betray our chosen destinies raises the question in Donnie’s mind of whether there is a God, or an outside influence.
Individuals in search of God often develop greater self-awareness. Buddhism is said to teach that “the solutions to our problems are within ourselves not outside” (http://www.buddhanet.net). Similarly, Christian views of morality found in the Bible can be used to evaluate a person’s flaws and help that person understand themselves better. Donnie Darko begins to develop a sense that God is at work through the appearance of Frank the rabbit. Frank says “I have been watching you. Do you believe in God Donnie? God loves his children, Donnie. God loves you.” (Kelly 10) Donnie’s emerging belief in God helps him to become more self-aware and further develop his sense of morality. However, Donnie feels compelled to obey Frank who gets him to flood the school and burn down a house. For Donnie, Frank represents a way to find God and Frank’s instructions are instructions from God. Even though Donnie feels guilt at having done these things, he obeys because he believes that he should. When his psychiatrist asks if God exists, Donnie answers “I think now that he might…” (Kelly 87) Donnie’s acceptance of God, allows him to do things he would not normally do and ultimately helps him to discover more about himself and his ability to change things. Similarly, Louis Wu, the protagonist in Ringworld, is on a search for the Ringworld engineer. In many ways, the engineer is a parallel for ‘God’. Louis searches for this ‘god’ or engineer so that he may understand how Ringworld came to be and more about the inhabitants. In seeking answers to these questions, Louis learns more about the form of religion on Ringworld which helps to explain phenomenan that are not understood by the inhabitants. This is similar to the way that Christianity and other religions attempt to answer questions about the origins of earth and it’s inhabitants. It is Louis’ need to find the Ringworld engineers that leads him on a journey to self-discovery. Louis believes that the Ringworld engineers are comparable to God. Christians believe that God created earth and its inhabitants, the people of Ringworld view the engineers who created their lands as gods. Although at first Louis mocks the people of this world, he learns to respect their ways and understand them better. “They’ve made gods of the Ringworld engineers. I should have noticed the silence…A religion….but you shouldn’t have laughed…nobody laughs in church not even tourists.” (Niven 176) Louis begins to accept other religions and belief in God much more seriously after his encounter with the original inhabitants of this foreign land. Through his conflict with the inhabitants of Ringworld, Louis learns to respect different beliefs and this helps him to develop a stronger sense of his own beliefs. His newly developed faith in God allows him to ‘find himself’ through personal reflection. This in turn improves his friendships with others.
Relationships with loved ones can help an individual learn more about themselves. For Donnie Darko, his relationship with Gretchen helps him to develop his own beliefs. They both discover that more than anything they wished to go back in time and replace all their moments of fear and anxiety with something peaceful and happy. When Donnie and Gretchen discuss this, Gretchen says: “You’ve got to back in time and take all those hours of darkness and pain and replace them….” (Kelly 54) It is through these conversations with Gretchen that Donnie is able to understand that cheating death when the airplane engine crashes into his room, it causes pain and darkness for so many other people. When Gretchen is killed, Donnie accepts the belief that he can improve things by going back in time. In the end he sacrifices himself so that he could make other people’s lives better. For Louis, his love for Teela Brown allows him become more aware of his feelings about his past life and he is better able to understand himself. Louis shares most of the experiences of his long life with Teela, especially those that are significant to his current beliefs. One experience he remembers involves a close encounter with an alien species. He reflects on this close call with death and understands that perhaps the current risks he is facing may be worth the outcome.
“ ‘Here let me show you something’…he half-raised his hand to his chest…he traced a line across his chest; but there was nothing under his fingertip…”A Gummidgy reacher tore a strip of me from shoulder to navel, four inches wide and a half an inch deep…he decided to swallow what he had of me…I must have been deadly poison to him, because he curled up in a shrieking ball and died’ ” (Niven 165)
The wounds that Louis suffered in the past have now healed and this helps him to realize that he can persevere. It also helps him accept it when he discovers that Teela doesn’t love him anymore. He knows that the pain will diminish over time.
Friends and peers can also have a profound effect on a person’s beliefs. Friends help each other through rough times by providing support through comparing beliefs and personal morals with friends, a person develops greater awareness of their own beliefs. This is a key tool in the path to self-discovery. Louis is able to discover his own beliefs through a political debate with an alien species that he considers his friend. Nessus’s people, the puppeteers, influence human breeding to develop ‘lucky’ individuals, like Teela Brown, who are less vulnerable to the kzinti (another cat-like species that threatens other species). The puppeteers breed the kzinti to produce less aggressive individuals. “The puppeteers pitted our species against each other in order to restrict kzinti expansion…You used us, you used us just as thoroughly as you used the kzinti” (Niven 181). It is through these debates that Louis discovers what he truly believes and this helps him further along the path of self-discovery. Similarly, Donnie’s differences with the morals of his friends helps to crystallize his own views. While waiting for the bus, Sean makes fun of a foreign exchange student named Cherita. Donnie opposes this discriminatory behavior by standing up for her. When Sean tells Cherita to go back to China, Donnie exclaims: “Leave her alone, man.” (Kelly 17). Donnie surprises himself by standing up for her and becomes more aware of his own feelings.
Professionals, such as teachers, doctors or psychiatrists, can also be very helpful in the process of self-discovery. In Donnie Darko, Donnie visits his psychiatrist and through stimulating conversations with her, he moves further on the path to self-discovery. Dr Thurman hypnotizes Donnie, which allows his subconscious mind to express what is upsetting him which helps him understand himself better. Reflecting on this later helps him to reason why he is afraid of being alone to die. Donnie regrets things he does that cause others pain, such as the burning down of a house. He begins to realize that he wants to right his wrongs so he can no longer have regrets but he needs to overcome his fear of death. In a conversation with Dr. Thurman, Donnie gains further insight.
Donnie: “She said that every living creature on earth dies alone.”
Thurman: “How did that make you feel?”
Donnie: “It reminded me of my dog, Callie… She died when I was eight, and she crawled underneath the porch.”
Thurman: “To die?”
Donnie: “To be alone”
Thurman: “Do you feel alone right now”
…
Thurman: “The search for god is absurd”
Donnie: “It is if everyone dies alone” (Kelly 50, 53)
This discussion helps Donnie overcome his fear of death and enables him to travel back in time to right the wrongs he has caused. Dr Thurman also raises the question about whether Donnie’s search for God is just a path towards self-discovery. Louis’ encounter with Prill, one of the Ringworld engineers, transforms his beliefs. He learns that the ‘fist of God’, the enormous mountain is a deformity and not part of the original design of Ringworld. Also, he learns that controlling people through pain or pleasure is not justified and creates more harm than good. “Now Louis had felt what she was fighting. “I shouldn’t have done it,” said Louis Wu.” (Niven 306). Through his dealings with Prill, Louis understands that one should not play God with people’s emotions – that they should be respected.
Through self-discovery, both Donnie Darko and Louis Wu are able to take action to improve the lives of others. Donnie’s self-discovery leads him to believe in the idea that the greatest gift to mankind would be to go back in time to repair events that cause pain or death. In the end, through getting in touch with his own beliefs, Donnie is able to sacrifice his own life in order to reverse recent unhappy events, particularly the death of Gretchen. For Louis Wu, his self-discovery helps him understand others and form his opinions regarding the existence of God and whether luck is a tangible force in the universe. This helps him to devise a plan for everyone to escape from the ring. Without having understood themselves first, it is unlikely that both Donnie and Louis would have been able to undertake these actions to save others. Donnie and Louis’s self-discovery makes it possible for them to attain their individual goals. “Sometimes it’s the only thing that keeps us going. So… will Donnie Darko find his Cellar Door?” (Kelley 84) For Donnie and indirectly for Luis, the cellar door represents the door to the foundation of self-discovery, as well as the acceptance of God. Throughout the text’s the protagonists encountered different techniques to achieve this self discovery. The outcome of the self-discovery obtained illustrates that the discovery of ones self is truly worth obtaining.
Gavin Goodchild
This thread reminded me of an essay i once wrote, involving donnie darko and the horrible book ringworld. I lucked out, with donnie darko, because it was so artistic and had a lot of "hidden meanings". But reading ringworld was the worst mistake i ever made. Anyhow it worked out okay, i believe i got 95% on the essay. YAYY
“A famous linguist once said… that of all the phrases in the English language, of all the endless combinations of words in all of history… that ‘Cellar Door’ is the most beautiful.” (Kelley 84) Richard Kelly’s Donnie Darko uses the imagery of a cellar door as the door to self-discovery or the foundation of what makes a person themselves. Donnie Darko and Larry Niven’s Ringworld are both works of science fiction that contain a strong theme of self-discovery. This is achieved through the main characters’ responses to unusual or frightening circumstances or events in their lives, their relationships with others and their educational and religious experiences. In both the Donnie Darko script and the Ringworld novel, the protagonists are on a quest for knowledge and understanding of how to deal with the difficult situations they face. Donnie Darko tells the story of a young man in search of a solution to a moral dilemma. Donnie becomes aware of impending doom through the appearance of an ‘imaginary’ rabbit named Frank. By following Frank outside, Donnie avoids being killed in a freak accident when an airplane engine crashes into his bedroom. However, subsequent events where his loved ones are killed because he has entered a tangent universe make Donnie realize that it would have been better if he had stayed in his room. Donnie wants to erase these tragic events and decides to travel back in time to reverse the course of events through his own self-sacrifice. In the novel Ringworld, the main character, Louis Wu, is on a quest to find a way to save the inhabitants of earth before the planet becomes uninhabitable in the future. He embarks on a long journey across the universe in a spaceship with three other crewmembers, two of which are alien creatures. It becomes a journey of discovery and self-discovery. They end up being trapped on the artificial world called Ringworld, which is composed of an enormous ring surrounding a distant sun. Eventually, Louis is able escape from Ringworld. It is Louis Wu’s predicament of being stranded on a foreign world or Donnie’s feeling of isolation that drives each character forward on their journey of self-discovery. Through their self-discovery, both Donnie and Louis are eventually able to make choices that offer solutions to their problems and allow them to help others. This understanding is obtained through dealing with difficult situations, their relationships with loved ones, friends and others, as well as through education and religion.
Education can be used in the process of self-discovery. For example, through the study of history, one can gain an understanding of what motivates people to act in certain ways. The historical figure, Hitler, and the events of World War II are infamous because of the atrocities that were committed as a result of extreme discrimination against people of different religions and races. Learning about these events can help develop a personal sense of morality. For Donnie Darko, it is his teacher’s “Life Line” exercise that helps him to clarify his own beliefs. The teacher hands out an assignment that requires students to evaluate different scenarios, such as “Johnny stole money” by placing an “x” on a line representing a spectrum of emotion from “Love” to “Fear”. Donnie refuses to complete the assignment because he does not agree with the belief that all of life’s emotions can be lumped into two categories. Through this exercise, Donnie discovers that he believes there are many other emotions such as pain, hate and anguish that influence a person’s actions. “I just don’t get this. Everything can’t be lumped into two categories. That’s too simple. …There are other things that need to be taken into account here. Like the whole spectrum of human emotion. ” (Richard Kelly 43). Although the purpose of the exercise may be to promote a view contrary to an individual’s beliefs, it can still be useful in helping to shape that individual’s morals. Donnie appears to be surer of his beliefs when he tries to defend them against his teacher’s. Another one of Donnie’s teachers introduces the idea of time travel. “So… according to Hawking… wormholes might be able to provide a short cut for jumping between two distant regions of space-time” (Kelly 46). Donnie discusses the concept of time travel with his teacher who lends him a book called The Philosophy of Time Travel by Roberta Sparrow. Through discussions with his teacher and by reading the book, Donnie begins to accept the possibility of time travel. However, it also raises the idea that if time travel is possible then God cannot predetermine a person’s life. “Then we would be given the choice to betray our chosen destinies. The very fact that this choice would exist… would mean that all preformed destiny would end.” (Kelly 77). Through the education Donny receives it increases his self-awareness, and he begins to ask more questions to satisfy his need to understand. The fact that the choice exists to betray our chosen destinies raises the question in Donnie’s mind of whether there is a God, or an outside influence.
Individuals in search of God often develop greater self-awareness. Buddhism is said to teach that “the solutions to our problems are within ourselves not outside” (http://www.buddhanet.net). Similarly, Christian views of morality found in the Bible can be used to evaluate a person’s flaws and help that person understand themselves better. Donnie Darko begins to develop a sense that God is at work through the appearance of Frank the rabbit. Frank says “I have been watching you. Do you believe in God Donnie? God loves his children, Donnie. God loves you.” (Kelly 10) Donnie’s emerging belief in God helps him to become more self-aware and further develop his sense of morality. However, Donnie feels compelled to obey Frank who gets him to flood the school and burn down a house. For Donnie, Frank represents a way to find God and Frank’s instructions are instructions from God. Even though Donnie feels guilt at having done these things, he obeys because he believes that he should. When his psychiatrist asks if God exists, Donnie answers “I think now that he might…” (Kelly 87) Donnie’s acceptance of God, allows him to do things he would not normally do and ultimately helps him to discover more about himself and his ability to change things. Similarly, Louis Wu, the protagonist in Ringworld, is on a search for the Ringworld engineer. In many ways, the engineer is a parallel for ‘God’. Louis searches for this ‘god’ or engineer so that he may understand how Ringworld came to be and more about the inhabitants. In seeking answers to these questions, Louis learns more about the form of religion on Ringworld which helps to explain phenomenan that are not understood by the inhabitants. This is similar to the way that Christianity and other religions attempt to answer questions about the origins of earth and it’s inhabitants. It is Louis’ need to find the Ringworld engineers that leads him on a journey to self-discovery. Louis believes that the Ringworld engineers are comparable to God. Christians believe that God created earth and its inhabitants, the people of Ringworld view the engineers who created their lands as gods. Although at first Louis mocks the people of this world, he learns to respect their ways and understand them better. “They’ve made gods of the Ringworld engineers. I should have noticed the silence…A religion….but you shouldn’t have laughed…nobody laughs in church not even tourists.” (Niven 176) Louis begins to accept other religions and belief in God much more seriously after his encounter with the original inhabitants of this foreign land. Through his conflict with the inhabitants of Ringworld, Louis learns to respect different beliefs and this helps him to develop a stronger sense of his own beliefs. His newly developed faith in God allows him to ‘find himself’ through personal reflection. This in turn improves his friendships with others.
Relationships with loved ones can help an individual learn more about themselves. For Donnie Darko, his relationship with Gretchen helps him to develop his own beliefs. They both discover that more than anything they wished to go back in time and replace all their moments of fear and anxiety with something peaceful and happy. When Donnie and Gretchen discuss this, Gretchen says: “You’ve got to back in time and take all those hours of darkness and pain and replace them….” (Kelly 54) It is through these conversations with Gretchen that Donnie is able to understand that cheating death when the airplane engine crashes into his room, it causes pain and darkness for so many other people. When Gretchen is killed, Donnie accepts the belief that he can improve things by going back in time. In the end he sacrifices himself so that he could make other people’s lives better. For Louis, his love for Teela Brown allows him become more aware of his feelings about his past life and he is better able to understand himself. Louis shares most of the experiences of his long life with Teela, especially those that are significant to his current beliefs. One experience he remembers involves a close encounter with an alien species. He reflects on this close call with death and understands that perhaps the current risks he is facing may be worth the outcome.
“ ‘Here let me show you something’…he half-raised his hand to his chest…he traced a line across his chest; but there was nothing under his fingertip…”A Gummidgy reacher tore a strip of me from shoulder to navel, four inches wide and a half an inch deep…he decided to swallow what he had of me…I must have been deadly poison to him, because he curled up in a shrieking ball and died’ ” (Niven 165)
The wounds that Louis suffered in the past have now healed and this helps him to realize that he can persevere. It also helps him accept it when he discovers that Teela doesn’t love him anymore. He knows that the pain will diminish over time.
Friends and peers can also have a profound effect on a person’s beliefs. Friends help each other through rough times by providing support through comparing beliefs and personal morals with friends, a person develops greater awareness of their own beliefs. This is a key tool in the path to self-discovery. Louis is able to discover his own beliefs through a political debate with an alien species that he considers his friend. Nessus’s people, the puppeteers, influence human breeding to develop ‘lucky’ individuals, like Teela Brown, who are less vulnerable to the kzinti (another cat-like species that threatens other species). The puppeteers breed the kzinti to produce less aggressive individuals. “The puppeteers pitted our species against each other in order to restrict kzinti expansion…You used us, you used us just as thoroughly as you used the kzinti” (Niven 181). It is through these debates that Louis discovers what he truly believes and this helps him further along the path of self-discovery. Similarly, Donnie’s differences with the morals of his friends helps to crystallize his own views. While waiting for the bus, Sean makes fun of a foreign exchange student named Cherita. Donnie opposes this discriminatory behavior by standing up for her. When Sean tells Cherita to go back to China, Donnie exclaims: “Leave her alone, man.” (Kelly 17). Donnie surprises himself by standing up for her and becomes more aware of his own feelings.
Professionals, such as teachers, doctors or psychiatrists, can also be very helpful in the process of self-discovery. In Donnie Darko, Donnie visits his psychiatrist and through stimulating conversations with her, he moves further on the path to self-discovery. Dr Thurman hypnotizes Donnie, which allows his subconscious mind to express what is upsetting him which helps him understand himself better. Reflecting on this later helps him to reason why he is afraid of being alone to die. Donnie regrets things he does that cause others pain, such as the burning down of a house. He begins to realize that he wants to right his wrongs so he can no longer have regrets but he needs to overcome his fear of death. In a conversation with Dr. Thurman, Donnie gains further insight.
Donnie: “She said that every living creature on earth dies alone.”
Thurman: “How did that make you feel?”
Donnie: “It reminded me of my dog, Callie… She died when I was eight, and she crawled underneath the porch.”
Thurman: “To die?”
Donnie: “To be alone”
Thurman: “Do you feel alone right now”
…
Thurman: “The search for god is absurd”
Donnie: “It is if everyone dies alone” (Kelly 50, 53)
This discussion helps Donnie overcome his fear of death and enables him to travel back in time to right the wrongs he has caused. Dr Thurman also raises the question about whether Donnie’s search for God is just a path towards self-discovery. Louis’ encounter with Prill, one of the Ringworld engineers, transforms his beliefs. He learns that the ‘fist of God’, the enormous mountain is a deformity and not part of the original design of Ringworld. Also, he learns that controlling people through pain or pleasure is not justified and creates more harm than good. “Now Louis had felt what she was fighting. “I shouldn’t have done it,” said Louis Wu.” (Niven 306). Through his dealings with Prill, Louis understands that one should not play God with people’s emotions – that they should be respected.
Through self-discovery, both Donnie Darko and Louis Wu are able to take action to improve the lives of others. Donnie’s self-discovery leads him to believe in the idea that the greatest gift to mankind would be to go back in time to repair events that cause pain or death. In the end, through getting in touch with his own beliefs, Donnie is able to sacrifice his own life in order to reverse recent unhappy events, particularly the death of Gretchen. For Louis Wu, his self-discovery helps him understand others and form his opinions regarding the existence of God and whether luck is a tangible force in the universe. This helps him to devise a plan for everyone to escape from the ring. Without having understood themselves first, it is unlikely that both Donnie and Louis would have been able to undertake these actions to save others. Donnie and Louis’s self-discovery makes it possible for them to attain their individual goals. “Sometimes it’s the only thing that keeps us going. So… will Donnie Darko find his Cellar Door?” (Kelley 84) For Donnie and indirectly for Luis, the cellar door represents the door to the foundation of self-discovery, as well as the acceptance of God. Throughout the text’s the protagonists encountered different techniques to achieve this self discovery. The outcome of the self-discovery obtained illustrates that the discovery of ones self is truly worth obtaining.
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I saw Lost in Translation on friday night, it was a mighty fine movie.
I can't wait until the day schools are over-funded and the military is forced to hold bake sales to buy planes.
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I saw the perfect score the other night.
It was surprisingly funny. I was expecting crap. I honestly was. But it had a lot of really funny parts along side the predictable ending and the completly uncreative plot (if you would like to call it that). If you expect a decent movie, don't go. If you want to laugh out loud obnoxiously then this is for you.
It was surprisingly funny. I was expecting crap. I honestly was. But it had a lot of really funny parts along side the predictable ending and the completly uncreative plot (if you would like to call it that). If you expect a decent movie, don't go. If you want to laugh out loud obnoxiously then this is for you.
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Goodbye you liar,
Well you sipped from the cup but you don't own up to anything
Then you think you will inspire
Take apart your head
(and I wish I could inspire)
Take apart your demons, then you add it to the list.
Goodbye you liar,
Well you sipped from the cup but you don't own up to anything
Then you think you will inspire
Take apart your head
(and I wish I could inspire)
Take apart your demons, then you add it to the list.
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Tisk tisk. How have you all forgotten the Truman Show and Edward Scissorhands? Definitely in my top ten list along with Finding Nemo, Deep Impact, The Nightmare Before Christmas, the Salton Sea, Pirates of the Caribbean, Toy Story 1 and 2, etc.
Oh, and I can't forget the entrie Lord of the Rings trilogy, now can I?
Oh, and I can't forget the entrie Lord of the Rings trilogy, now can I?


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I saw Secret Window.... as a depp fan, it was good but there was a tad bit too MUCH of johnny... I wasnt that scary, it made you jump... oh well
its more funny than it is scary and the beginning it was really slow...
but... none the less, johnny in a bath robe .... oh man the ideas
its more funny than it is scary and the beginning it was really slow...

but... none the less, johnny in a bath robe .... oh man the ideas

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brad pitt
you guys should see Citizen Ruth - its about this 20 year old pregnant women who is addicted to huffing things like paint and glue.... it has a ton of celebs in it, but isnt well know ... very very funny movie.
read more here > http://imdb.com/title/tt0115906/plotsummary

you guys should see Citizen Ruth - its about this 20 year old pregnant women who is addicted to huffing things like paint and glue.... it has a ton of celebs in it, but isnt well know ... very very funny movie.
read more here > http://imdb.com/title/tt0115906/plotsummary
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