This is just another way that humans are destroying natural selection.
Its starting to get a little more then scary. Because who's going to stop it?
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Axtech - Oskar Lifetime Achievement Award: 2004
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by I AM ME » 1/20/2004, 9:18 am
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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by I AM ME » 1/20/2004, 3:11 pm
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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by I AM ME » 1/20/2004, 9:21 pm
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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by Narbus » 1/20/2004, 10:35 pm
Oh hell, it's already started. There are currently, as in right now, hundreds of chinese women intentionally so their child is born in a "lucky" year.
Do on google and you'll find that people have already been going hogwild looking for a means to have the best baby. It's already happening, this just produces better results.
The intent is and always has been there. You have done nothing to show that this is bad other than set up a VERY flimsy false analogy (in the middle of invoking , no less).
Also, people want their kids to be happy. To be happy means they have to be able to experience a wide range of emotions, ergo the "eliminate all emotion" straw man doesn't hold up. Just because a kid is less likely to fall into a state of personal grief for weeks at a time doesn't mean they won't get the blues when the dog dies, or that they just won't feel anything, nor does it signal the downfall of human nature, and while we're on it, being "less likely" to experience depression is not the same as not ever getting depressed.
You greatly overestimate the power of nature vs. nurture. Look at height. It's clear that height is, to some extent, genetic. But we also know that healthy diet and proper excercise contribute to how tall you'll end up being, just as childhood illness can leave your shorter than you otherwise would have been. Just because you have the genes to be tall doesn't mean you're going to be 6'1 no discussion. There's a lot of room in there.
Do on google and you'll find that people have already been going hogwild looking for a means to have the best baby. It's already happening, this just produces better results.
The intent is and always has been there. You have done nothing to show that this is bad other than set up a VERY flimsy false analogy (in the middle of invoking , no less).
Also, people want their kids to be happy. To be happy means they have to be able to experience a wide range of emotions, ergo the "eliminate all emotion" straw man doesn't hold up. Just because a kid is less likely to fall into a state of personal grief for weeks at a time doesn't mean they won't get the blues when the dog dies, or that they just won't feel anything, nor does it signal the downfall of human nature, and while we're on it, being "less likely" to experience depression is not the same as not ever getting depressed.
You greatly overestimate the power of nature vs. nurture. Look at height. It's clear that height is, to some extent, genetic. But we also know that healthy diet and proper excercise contribute to how tall you'll end up being, just as childhood illness can leave your shorter than you otherwise would have been. Just because you have the genes to be tall doesn't mean you're going to be 6'1 no discussion. There's a lot of room in there.
You can't go around building a better world for people. Only people can build a better world for people. Otherwise it's just a cage.
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by thirdhour » 1/20/2004, 11:48 pm
It just seems inhuman in a way. Like shopping for all the parts so you can have the perfect baby. Sure, we breed horses so they're the fastest, but they're animals. I think there's just this desire to be 'perfect' that is really strong in our society. WHY do we need to be the best at everything? Isn't love enough? Shouldn't parents be happy with what they get, and love them just the same? Maybe because I'm not even near becoming a parent, I can't talk, but people should just be people. Imagine being a child that has been 'genitacally enhanced'. If you feel great about something, there's always that doubt that 'do I REALLY feel this way or does someone just want me too?' You could never find an identity because you are just someone else's creation.
Having many sports would just become pointless. It would have alot to do with who had the best science put into them instead of who actually put in the most effort. You can argue that genes still have alot of effect now, but there's a reason drugs are illegal in sports.
Having many sports would just become pointless. It would have alot to do with who had the best science put into them instead of who actually put in the most effort. You can argue that genes still have alot of effect now, but there's a reason drugs are illegal in sports.
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