Any Songs That You Prefer Steve's Version to Mike's?

He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named · Post by **He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named** » 1/16/2004, 11:45 pm

Call me a blasphemer, a controversy-starter, or whatever, but:

I prefer Steve's Starseed to Mike's
I like the way they did Are You Sad? on this past tour. It's not entirely Steve's doing, I just think it sounds better.
I prefer Steve's Birdman.
I also like the way the band in general does Mafia with Steve.

Most everything else is either highly debatable or Mike's is better.

However, Steven will never, ever, ever touch Michael on my favorite OLp song, Naveed (as I sit listening to Mike's last ever performance :cry:

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Johnny · Post by **Johnny** » 1/17/2004, 12:06 am

I likw Mike's playing better. The only exception is In Repair and Are You Sad. Both Are a bit cooler with Steve

He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named · Post by **He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named** » 1/17/2004, 12:11 am

Ooh, forgot In Repair.

I like the way they tweaked it.

Post by **faninor** » 1/17/2004, 12:35 am

Steve kicks ass on Right Behind You.

Post by **xjsb125** » 1/17/2004, 8:38 am

Birdman, In Repair, Starseed.

Sufjan Stevens · Post by **Sufjan Stevens** » 1/17/2004, 12:00 pm

Didn't we have this thread 8 times already?

Axtech · Post by **Axtech** » 1/17/2004, 12:56 pm

Let them be. This is only number 7.

Tattooed Angels · Post by **Tattooed Angels** » 1/17/2004, 2:57 pm

The only thing I will say is I love Steve's Black Yamaha Guitar. Everytime he plays it, it has a great sound. i guess that is why he uses it alot.

Who I like better?. Deppsite my sig and photo. I have to say it isn't Steve's playing or Mike's playing ,but the arrangement of the songs live. I like how Naveed is done now. It seems the guitar in Superman's Dead is more noticible. Other then that it all boils down to whose style you prefer. I will tell you that on a lot of songs there really isn't any different in the song. Plus we have no idea what Mike sounds like on any song past Spiriutal Machine. Jamie played Guitar on Gravity(Steve plays on 3 tracks)

I will say that the rest of the band has gotten better live over the years. They were going that way before Mike left. If you listen to shows from the Happiness era then listen to something live from the Spiritual Machine Era, you can hear how much tighter they became as a live band.

Xavier870 · Post by **Xavier870** » 1/17/2004, 4:35 pm

Starseed, In Repair, Are You Sad, Mafia. Basically the same as everyone else.

Johnny · Post by **Johnny** » 1/17/2004, 4:51 pm

psycho groupie wrote:The only thing I will say is I love Steve's Black Yamaha Guitar. Everytime he plays it, it has a great sound. i guess that is why he uses it alot.

Thats a very fine guitar. I'm glad I own one :mrgreen:

Joe Cooler · Post by **Joe Cooler** » 1/17/2004, 6:35 pm

I'm so very jealous of you.

Johnny · Post by **Johnny** » 1/17/2004, 8:11 pm

He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named · Post by **He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named** » 1/17/2004, 9:10 pm

Rufus Wainwright wrote:Didn't we have this thread 8 times already?

Deepest apologies.

Flea21212 · Post by **Flea21212** » 1/18/2004, 1:38 am

Absent Minded Guitarist wrote:
psycho groupie wrote:The only thing I will say is I love Steve's Black Yamaha Guitar. Everytime he plays it, it has a great sound. i guess that is why he uses it alot.

Thats a very fine guitar. I'm glad I own one

They aren't too badly priced either are they? only a little over $300 if i recall.

How do you like the guitar...other than it's the same one that Steve plays, I guess compared to other guitars... I've also read that it's a primarly d-tune type of guitar, which means it can read lower tones and keeps the strings at the right tension better than other guitars do you find this true?

Axtech · Post by **Axtech** » 1/18/2004, 8:35 am

You can get two versions of it. One dropped, one not. Steve uses the one that isn't dropped. One's the "AES820" the other (drop 6) is "AES820D6".

Johnny · Post by **Johnny** » 1/18/2004, 12:30 pm

Flea21212 wrote:
Absent Minded Guitarist wrote:
psycho groupie wrote:The only thing I will say is I love Steve's Black Yamaha Guitar. Everytime he plays it, it has a great sound. i guess that is why he uses it alot.

Thats a very fine guitar. I'm glad I own one

They aren't too badly priced either are they? only a little over $300 if i recall.

I bought mine for $500 US, so thats about $700 Canadian. Its a fair price.

Flea21212 wrote:How do you like the guitar?"

I love this guitar dude. It stacks up fairly well when compared to a Les Paul or Strat. It has a really good feel when I am playing it and its sounds wonderfull. Comfortable and highly playable.

Flea21212 wrote:I've also read that it's a primarly d-tune type of guitar, which means it can read lower tones and keeps the strings at the right tension better than other guitars do you find this true?

Do I find it true? No.

olp_gravity · Post by **olp_gravity** » 1/19/2004, 10:46 pm

they tweaked a lot of songs with Steve live,
i like In Repair,Birdman with Steve
I think thats the only ones i like better, other ones dont have many differences

Axtech · Post by **Axtech** » 1/22/2004, 6:33 pm

I don't think it's fair to compare Mike's album version's to Steve's live versions, so I've been watching some older recordings.

Honestly, I haven't found a song that I like Steve's version(s) better. I mean, Steve's a great guitarist, but he just doesn't stack up in my mind. Steve's got a fast hard style that sounds great, but Mike's style was so absolutely PERFECTED. Every little thing was exactly on. The man is a fucking guitar god.

Johnny · Post by **Johnny** » 1/22/2004, 6:35 pm

Axtech wrote:. Every little thing was exactly on. The man is a fucking guitar god.

You just realized that? :wtf:

Axtech · Post by **Axtech** » 1/22/2004, 6:36 pm

Well, re-realized. :mrgreen: