The 24 scenario
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Brooklin Matt
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The 24 scenario
What I really want to talk about now is a situation encountered in season 2 of "24". In this situation the President has strong evidence that a nuclear bomb is in Los Angeles. A member of the press is able to find out about it. The reporter is questioned by the President, and eventually asks him not to report what he knows because it will surely cause a catastrophic panic. The reporter turns down the President's offer of an exclusive interview and tries to report the story. The President decides to hold him captive until the situation is resolved. Do you agree with his decision?
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Long Jonny
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First off, 24 is an amazing show.
Second, ya, I agree with the President's decision on the show. Sometimes things have to be done to keep the public calm. Obviously there is stuff that goes on behind Bush, we just don't know it. I agree with the decision if it is something that is needed to be done to ensure safety of the people.
Second, ya, I agree with the President's decision on the show. Sometimes things have to be done to keep the public calm. Obviously there is stuff that goes on behind Bush, we just don't know it. I agree with the decision if it is something that is needed to be done to ensure safety of the people.
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Brooklin Matt
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Doug disagreed.
I would like his interpretation. (Basically a moral arguement)
I agree with the President as well. He had to revoke the liberty of one individual to protect the lives of thousands. This is a situation that shows that morality is really only an illusion of our values. Doug values liberty, and after watching that little slideshow with the funny music I started thinking that there could be flaws to this. I know Doug disagrees and I believe that he is allowing his own personal values interfere with the values of thousands more (namely their right to survive) But, I always look foreward to what he has to say..........
If there wasn't a nuclear bomb in L.A. and a member of the press decided to say there was anyways...........would you then let him speak??
And the consequences of your choice........if thousands died and you could have prevented that, you wouldn't feel the slightest bit guilty?
The reporter was not hurt........detaining does take away his liberty, but you can't ignore that his piece would lead to a greater violation of human rights. Or so I believe....
I would like his interpretation. (Basically a moral arguement)
I agree with the President as well. He had to revoke the liberty of one individual to protect the lives of thousands. This is a situation that shows that morality is really only an illusion of our values. Doug values liberty, and after watching that little slideshow with the funny music I started thinking that there could be flaws to this. I know Doug disagrees and I believe that he is allowing his own personal values interfere with the values of thousands more (namely their right to survive) But, I always look foreward to what he has to say..........
If there wasn't a nuclear bomb in L.A. and a member of the press decided to say there was anyways...........would you then let him speak??
And the consequences of your choice........if thousands died and you could have prevented that, you wouldn't feel the slightest bit guilty?
The reporter was not hurt........detaining does take away his liberty, but you can't ignore that his piece would lead to a greater violation of human rights. Or so I believe....
hmmmm see it's hard for me to say, obviously having mass panic isn't a good thing, and probably would cause way more trouble then good if there wasn't much hope. But also, would you want to know if you were going to die? I'm not sure whether i would, sure if it just happened quick and you were gone that woudl be great. But also having the chance to say goodbye and do the things you never could before you died would be nice too. It all comes to down to the public not being logical enough in a situation like that to not cause mass destruction and chaos
"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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Brooklin Matt
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I thought season 2 kicked ass........just tons action.......kind of ridiculous to have that happen to you in one day.........haha, getting tortured to death?!!
Season 3 is a little slower, but its building baby!! Its already getting out of control.....it should get dirty next.
Anyways, there are some other moral conundrums on this show worth discussing. Maybe some debates will make people watch the show. ITs "one of the good ones"
Season 3 is a little slower, but its building baby!! Its already getting out of control.....it should get dirty next.
Anyways, there are some other moral conundrums on this show worth discussing. Maybe some debates will make people watch the show. ITs "one of the good ones"
the reporter should be kept confined because he's a threat to national security. the panic that could have been created would endanger alot of lives.
Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.
Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
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Brooklin Matt
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The chances of the public acting logically is practically nil.....especially in mass crowds would be unlikely. Facing the prospect of immediate death might cause people to escape at any cost. I'm sure its logical to them given their own liberty, to protect themselves from the prospect of death. If someone slows them down.......they might feel that they are morally justified given the circumstances.
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To be honest, I think season 3 is the best yet. And it's only going to get better. In my opinion, this is the best show on TV right now (without a doubt). This season has had the most action of the three and most controversy. The show two weeks ago was actually one of the most controversial tv shows ever aired on tv for a couple reasons. Firstly, they showed Kyle Singer trying to commit suicide by hanging himself. Secondly, it shows the prison guards playing russian roulette in which one of the prison guards loses and it is shown very clearly for you to see.
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The Other Matt wrote:Doug disagreed.
I would like his interpretation. (Basically a moral arguement)
I agree with the President as well. He had to revoke the liberty of one individual to protect the lives of thousands. This is a situation that shows that morality is really only an illusion of our values. Doug values liberty, and after watching that little slideshow with the funny music I started thinking that there could be flaws to this. I know Doug disagrees and I believe that he is allowing his own personal values interfere with the values of thousands more (namely their right to survive) But, I always look foreward to what he has to say..........
If there wasn't a nuclear bomb in L.A. and a member of the press decided to say there was anyways...........would you then let him speak??
And the consequences of your choice........if thousands died and you could have prevented that, you wouldn't feel the slightest bit guilty?
The reporter was not hurt........detaining does take away his liberty, but you can't ignore that his piece would lead to a greater violation of human rights. Or so I believe....
that was chris, doug's twin brother
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Long Jonny
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I have to say I agree.......
The public would probably only harm the situation, if anything. I'm certain there are other things that goes on "behind the scenes" that perhaps the public SHOULD know. Like whether or not Mrs. Bush really murdered that ex years ago...
But yeah, good call by the President on that show.
The public would probably only harm the situation, if anything. I'm certain there are other things that goes on "behind the scenes" that perhaps the public SHOULD know. Like whether or not Mrs. Bush really murdered that ex years ago...
But yeah, good call by the President on that show.
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