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Anyways, there ain't nothin wrong with gettin your freak on with unwilling women as long as you have fat wads of cash to throw around to protect you. (Kobe Bryant).
Love doesn't matter, let alone exist anyways. It's just some myth a group of ladies came up with to prevent their daughters from participating in gang bangs. Love is nothing more than being dependant on seeing someone else. You trick yourself into thinking you need to be around that person, and sure enough, to justify the fact you want to be around a person, for whatever reason it may be, you classify it as love, even when it doesn't exist. The end.
But back on topic, who cares if you do what you like? As long as you aren't going out of your way to hurt or kill a human, it shouldn't really matter.
Love doesn't matter, let alone exist anyways. It's just some myth a group of ladies came up with to prevent their daughters from participating in gang bangs. Love is nothing more than being dependant on seeing someone else. You trick yourself into thinking you need to be around that person, and sure enough, to justify the fact you want to be around a person, for whatever reason it may be, you classify it as love, even when it doesn't exist. The end.
But back on topic, who cares if you do what you like? As long as you aren't going out of your way to hurt or kill a human, it shouldn't really matter.
I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
nikki4982 wrote:Anyway, yes, all of what you said is quite true. Personally, I try to steer away from gelatin and other stuff like that found in candy, even though I'm not vegan... but I am guilty of using/eating some stuff that includes it. I wish I weren't, but it's just so hard in our society to do, cos you never know what it's hiding in.
Seriously .. isn't it disgusting how gelatin is in SO many foods? It's always where you least expect it too. Like the frosting on poptarts! A poptart is vegan until they throw on the frosting


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I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
There's vegetable based gelatin but it's apparently hard to find and most companies don't bother with it beause of that so they use the cheaper, more cost effective gelatin and the one more readily available which comes from animals .... but yes, veggie jello ... I don't believe it has any gelatin of any kind in it ... there's probably a veggie alternative for just about everything out there if you look hard enough
They introduced the first veggie marshmallow not that long ago ...

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I still think it's oh so wrong that there's such a thing as gelatin-free gelatin.
I mean, wow, I never thought it would be possible to say something like that. It's like saying "oxygen-free water;" It's just not meant to happen.

I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
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Joey wrote:Seriously .. isn't it disgusting how gelatin is in SO many foods? It's always where you least expect it too. Like the frosting on poptarts! A poptart is vegan until they throw on the frostingand it's in the frosting on mini wheats! Jello too .. but there's veggie jello .. even though I hate jello
Woah! I didn't know that about poptarts and mini wheats. Dude, that sucks.

And, yeah, there's gelatin-free gelatin now.





*goes back to eating her chicken-free chicken noodle soup*

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Well it's not really gelatin free gelatin, it's just a vegetable based gelatin .. like you can get vegetable based glycerin too ... the company Wrigley's uses all vegetable based glcyerin in all their gum so they're vegan
Yeah there's one huge Whole Foods Market in Toronto that sells nothing but vegan/veggie foods but I don't drive and it's 2 hours away so I've never been there. My local stores have most of what I need .. like veggie sour cream, cream cheese, pudding, yogurt etc but I can't imagine an entire veggie store

Yeah there's one huge Whole Foods Market in Toronto that sells nothing but vegan/veggie foods but I don't drive and it's 2 hours away so I've never been there. My local stores have most of what I need .. like veggie sour cream, cream cheese, pudding, yogurt etc but I can't imagine an entire veggie store

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Gelatin: Protein obtained by boiling skin, tendons, ligaments or bones with water, from cattle and hogs. Used in shampoos, face masks, other cosmetics. Used as a thickener for fruit gelatins and puddings (Jello-brand desserts). In candies, marshmallows, cakes, ice cream, yogurts. On photographic film as a coating and in vitamins as capsules.
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Rufus Wainwright wrote:
Love doesn't matter, let alone exist anyways. It's just some myth a group of ladies came up with to prevent their daughters from participating in gang bangs. Love is nothing more than being dependant on seeing someone else. You trick yourself into thinking you need to be around that person, and sure enough, to justify the fact you want to be around a person, for whatever reason it may be, you classify it as love, even when it doesn't exist. The end.
Actually, love is the opposite of dependency. In order to feel something for another person, you need to be a complete person and happy with yourself. And if you fit that description, you're not going to be dependent on seeing anyone. Love is about finding someone who makes you happy and that you actually LIKE spending time with.
Anyway, in regards to Nikki: a vegetarian supermarket! That kicks ass. I wish there was one of those around here.
don't look now, just keep watching the TV hating what's too see waiting for someone to say something that's right.
Absent Minded Guitarist wrote::wtf:
Gross huh? That's why I don't eat anything with gelatin in it .. unfortunately since I don't have a digital camera and until I can afford to buy one there isn't anything I can do about my camera film

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Joey wrote:Absent Minded Guitarist wrote::wtf:
Gross huh? That's why I don't eat anything with gelatin in it .. unfortunately since I don't have a digital camera and until I can afford to buy one there isn't anything I can do about my camera film
yes, its is gross.
At first I wondered how you brought camaras into the conversation. Then I re-read your post.

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Joey wrote:My local stores have most of what I need .. like veggie sour cream, cream cheese, pudding, yogurt etc but I can't imagine an entire veggie store



And, yes, that vegetarian supermarket is very very VERY cool. I need to move it closer to my house.

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for, no religion too, imagine all the people, living <font color="#FFFFFF">life</font> in peace...</font>
<font color="#89CDCC">Imagine no possesions, I wonder if you can, no need for greed or <font color="#FFFFFF">hunger</font>,
a brotherhood of man, imagine all the people, sharing all the <font color="#FFFFFF">world</font>...</font>
<font color="#B1DFDE">You may say I'm a <font color="#FFFFFF">dreamer</font>, but I'm not the only one, I hope
some day you'll join us, and the world will <font color="#FFFFFF">live</font> as one.</font></center></font>
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<font color="#3C8C8B">Imagine there's no heaven, it's easy if you try, no hell below us,
above us only sky, imagine all the people, <font color="#FFFFFF">living</font> for today...</font>
<font color="#50B4B3">Imagine there's no countries, it isn't hard to do, nothing to kill or die
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<font color="#89CDCC">Imagine no possesions, I wonder if you can, no need for greed or <font color="#FFFFFF">hunger</font>,
a brotherhood of man, imagine all the people, sharing all the <font color="#FFFFFF">world</font>...</font>
<font color="#B1DFDE">You may say I'm a <font color="#FFFFFF">dreamer</font>, but I'm not the only one, I hope
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Aww.
Boca = GOOOOOD. Their "sausage" is INCREDIBLE.
Aww, now I'm hungry and want that... but it's downstairs.
Yay for laziness!!!



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<center><img src="../phpBB2/files/squiggle.gif">
<font color="#3C8C8B">Imagine there's no heaven, it's easy if you try, no hell below us,
above us only sky, imagine all the people, <font color="#FFFFFF">living</font> for today...</font>
<font color="#50B4B3">Imagine there's no countries, it isn't hard to do, nothing to kill or die
for, no religion too, imagine all the people, living <font color="#FFFFFF">life</font> in peace...</font>
<font color="#89CDCC">Imagine no possesions, I wonder if you can, no need for greed or <font color="#FFFFFF">hunger</font>,
a brotherhood of man, imagine all the people, sharing all the <font color="#FFFFFF">world</font>...</font>
<font color="#B1DFDE">You may say I'm a <font color="#FFFFFF">dreamer</font>, but I'm not the only one, I hope
some day you'll join us, and the world will <font color="#FFFFFF">live</font> as one.</font></center></font>
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<center><img src="../phpBB2/files/squiggle.gif">
<font color="#3C8C8B">Imagine there's no heaven, it's easy if you try, no hell below us,
above us only sky, imagine all the people, <font color="#FFFFFF">living</font> for today...</font>
<font color="#50B4B3">Imagine there's no countries, it isn't hard to do, nothing to kill or die
for, no religion too, imagine all the people, living <font color="#FFFFFF">life</font> in peace...</font>
<font color="#89CDCC">Imagine no possesions, I wonder if you can, no need for greed or <font color="#FFFFFF">hunger</font>,
a brotherhood of man, imagine all the people, sharing all the <font color="#FFFFFF">world</font>...</font>
<font color="#B1DFDE">You may say I'm a <font color="#FFFFFF">dreamer</font>, but I'm not the only one, I hope
some day you'll join us, and the world will <font color="#FFFFFF">live</font> as one.</font></center></font>
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Oh, is it the ground "beef"? Cos Morningstar makes that, too.
That's the kind I get.

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<center><img src="../phpBB2/files/squiggle.gif">
<font color="#3C8C8B">Imagine there's no heaven, it's easy if you try, no hell below us,
above us only sky, imagine all the people, <font color="#FFFFFF">living</font> for today...</font>
<font color="#50B4B3">Imagine there's no countries, it isn't hard to do, nothing to kill or die
for, no religion too, imagine all the people, living <font color="#FFFFFF">life</font> in peace...</font>
<font color="#89CDCC">Imagine no possesions, I wonder if you can, no need for greed or <font color="#FFFFFF">hunger</font>,
a brotherhood of man, imagine all the people, sharing all the <font color="#FFFFFF">world</font>...</font>
<font color="#B1DFDE">You may say I'm a <font color="#FFFFFF">dreamer</font>, but I'm not the only one, I hope
some day you'll join us, and the world will <font color="#FFFFFF">live</font> as one.</font></center></font>
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<center><img src="../phpBB2/files/squiggle.gif">
<font color="#3C8C8B">Imagine there's no heaven, it's easy if you try, no hell below us,
above us only sky, imagine all the people, <font color="#FFFFFF">living</font> for today...</font>
<font color="#50B4B3">Imagine there's no countries, it isn't hard to do, nothing to kill or die
for, no religion too, imagine all the people, living <font color="#FFFFFF">life</font> in peace...</font>
<font color="#89CDCC">Imagine no possesions, I wonder if you can, no need for greed or <font color="#FFFFFF">hunger</font>,
a brotherhood of man, imagine all the people, sharing all the <font color="#FFFFFF">world</font>...</font>
<font color="#B1DFDE">You may say I'm a <font color="#FFFFFF">dreamer</font>, but I'm not the only one, I hope
some day you'll join us, and the world will <font color="#FFFFFF">live</font> as one.</font></center></font>