Hope is on Much's "So 90s" right now.
It's just the video, but it's got a whole slew of cool tidbits going across the bottom of the screen (so far nothing I didn't already know, lol).
This is the first I've EVER seen this video on TV.
Hope - So 90s
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Axtech
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Hope - So 90s
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Every now and then I fall out into open air just to feel the wind, rain and everything.
And though the hum and sway gets me down, I'll find the way to peace and openness.
"Robbo" - © Alex (happeningfish)...^5 ^5 v v
Every now and then I fall out into open air just to feel the wind, rain and everything.
And though the hum and sway gets me down, I'll find the way to peace and openness.
"Robbo" - © Alex (happeningfish)...^5 ^5 v v
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Oh, and on a side note [at the risk of turning this into another of "those" threads] this got me thinking about something... This song (and video) is way better than anything Gravity and beyond, yet it's still "radio friendly". Anything that gets played on this show has some huge staying power (I have yet to see a video on So 90s that I didn't know of). It's depressing, really, seeing something this great by the same band that put out Innocent. All those "teeny bopper" fans probably think Hope is crap. 
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Every now and then I fall out into open air just to feel the wind, rain and everything.
And though the hum and sway gets me down, I'll find the way to peace and openness.
"Robbo" - © Alex (happeningfish)...^5 ^5 v v
Every now and then I fall out into open air just to feel the wind, rain and everything.
And though the hum and sway gets me down, I'll find the way to peace and openness.
"Robbo" - © Alex (happeningfish)...^5 ^5 v v
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I saw it 
. You make a good point, Rob. It's pretty radio-friendly, but still amazing. Ah, OLP. *sigh*
. You make a good point, Rob. It's pretty radio-friendly, but still amazing. Ah, OLP. *sigh*Without you I'm as good as
dead ...
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Axtech wrote:It's depressing, really, seeing something this great by the same band that put out Innocent.
While that is true, listen to even Clumsy and Hope. It's difficult to believe that that is only one album's span between songs.
Clumsy has basically the same structure as Innocent (although a far better song), verse, chorus, verse, chorus, break, bridge, chorus till fade.
Hope follows structure far more loosely.
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I don't mind structure, though. It's just the stupid simplicity of everything in a song like Innocent that irks me. Complicated can work just as well for the radio, as songs like Hope show.
Anyways, back to the video...
The info scrolling across the bottom was pretty basic for us hardcore fans. Stuff about Mike and Raine starting As If, then changing to OLP. They even had a stanza or two of the poem scrolling across!
And, back to the "one of those threads" thing...
I'd much rather watch the docile artful rocking of Mike than the spasmatic (orgasmatic? lol) rocking of Steve. Steve's great and all, but I feel a twinge of pain when ever I watch Mike.
Anyways, back to the video...
The info scrolling across the bottom was pretty basic for us hardcore fans. Stuff about Mike and Raine starting As If, then changing to OLP. They even had a stanza or two of the poem scrolling across!
And, back to the "one of those threads" thing...
I'd much rather watch the docile artful rocking of Mike than the spasmatic (orgasmatic? lol) rocking of Steve. Steve's great and all, but I feel a twinge of pain when ever I watch Mike.
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Every now and then I fall out into open air just to feel the wind, rain and everything.
And though the hum and sway gets me down, I'll find the way to peace and openness.
"Robbo" - © Alex (happeningfish)...^5 ^5 v v
Every now and then I fall out into open air just to feel the wind, rain and everything.
And though the hum and sway gets me down, I'll find the way to peace and openness.
"Robbo" - © Alex (happeningfish)...^5 ^5 v v
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i caught the very last second of the video playing
only the second or third time i've seen it on tv
i saw it on MMM's then and now after the night of the sars concert actually (i think they were doin a special on the bands that played the night before) and it's funny, they played hope and innocent... quite a contrast... i'm gonna be honest tho, i still really like innocent. i'm not sitting here praising everything olp does, but i really like how it's a little different from some of their other stuff... the kids in the background was just kinda neat... raines voice was pretty cool, and the drum beat (although very simplistic) was somewhat catchy... i mean, you can't please everyone, but that's not what they were planning for anyway... i will definitely admit, however, that it's down on the bottom part of the list for well-crafted songs... but it's still cool in it's own little way
only the second or third time i've seen it on tv
i saw it on MMM's then and now after the night of the sars concert actually (i think they were doin a special on the bands that played the night before) and it's funny, they played hope and innocent... quite a contrast... i'm gonna be honest tho, i still really like innocent. i'm not sitting here praising everything olp does, but i really like how it's a little different from some of their other stuff... the kids in the background was just kinda neat... raines voice was pretty cool, and the drum beat (although very simplistic) was somewhat catchy... i mean, you can't please everyone, but that's not what they were planning for anyway... i will definitely admit, however, that it's down on the bottom part of the list for well-crafted songs... but it's still cool in it's own little way
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Supersatellite in my opinion had huge potential to become a hit. Same with a lot of songs off of Spiritual Machines (ARE YOU SAD? anyone!!) and off of Gravity (in my opinion their choice for singles isnt the greatest....Sorry, Sell My Soul, All For you are all more hit-material than Made of Steel I think)
i couldn't have agreed with you more Ax
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"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
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I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
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"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911
"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good
I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.
"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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Long Jon wrote:the drum beat (although very simplistic) was somewhat catchy...
Actually the drumming on Innocent is a little deceptive . . . there are a few finer points to it that are just really hard to catch because they're quiet . . . some use of the snare drum that reminds me a little of Clumsy/Happiness stuff. If you have 2002-09-06 - KINK FM - Amsterdam, Holland I think it can be heard right at the beginning, or if you watch Jeremy from the performance at the MMVA's you can see it. In the studio version I can't hear it until the chorus.
So yeah . . . I really do not like that song, but the drum beat isn't quite so simplistic. It's not The Story of 100 Aisles (much better example of Jeremy's drumming than One Man Army)
but it's also not just like boom-chuck-boom-chuck.-Josh
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I have yet to see the Hope video, so I am waiting for So 90's to be played again.
On the topic of drumming though, I have to say that I can hear Jer doing much more on the newer songs then whats on gravity. I know it isnt the recorded version but he isnt the drumming robot on these songs.
On the topic of drumming though, I have to say that I can hear Jer doing much more on the newer songs then whats on gravity. I know it isnt the recorded version but he isnt the drumming robot on these songs.
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Goodbye you liar,
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Then you think you will inspire
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Goodbye you liar,
Well you sipped from the cup but you don't own up to anything
Then you think you will inspire
Take apart your head
(and I wish I could inspire)
Take apart your demons, then you add it to the list.
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Random Name wrote:I have yet to see the Hope video, so I am waiting for So 90's to be played again.
On the topic of drumming though, I have to say that I can hear Jer doing much more on the newer songs then whats on gravity. I know it isnt the recorded version but he isnt the drumming robot on these songs.
Since I live in the 'States, I'd never seen any of the videos; that's why I got Rich & Shelley's tape set thing. That friggin' rocks the mucho. Almost anything you could want is on that thang.
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already a member. the hub friggin' kicks.
"When looking up there, I just felt whole, like I belonged. Like one day I too would shine my most brilliant. Sitting there also made me think about sitting through services at my little country church back home. About that never-changing congregation of the same sixty-seven people and everyone has known you since before you were born. Now, out here in the real world, everything just seemed more vivid than when I used to sit in that little pew. That pew that was now so, so far away from where I was. I feared I had somehow left God behind there, too. I feared he was somehow just sitting there, saving my seat on the fifth pew from the front row, just waiting on me to come back. I left so quickly, I worried that he may not have noticed I was gone. And, now, I’m just too far away to find. So he’s just sitting there, patiently waiting on me to come back. I closed my eyes and prayed a moment. I hoped more than anything that he could still hear me." -an excerpt from my novella, A Sea of Fallen Leaves.
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Hell yes! I mean, that's pretty boy!
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