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Hey, folks. I'm new here, having just stumbled upon this site a few days ago. I know of nobody else other than myself who likes Our Lady Peace, so this will be the first time I've ever been able to actually discuss the band with other living, breathing "spiritual machines." I'm quite excited, actually. Anyway, I had a few comments/questions:

1. To anyone worried that OLP is reverting to Top 40 fare: here in the South, they sure aren't. I recently drove from San Antonio, TX to Pensecola, FL, listening to the radio all the way, and never once heard an OLP song on any station, rock or Top 40. San Antonio's rock station, 99.5 KISS, plays "Superman's Dead" once in a blue moon, but that's it. On one hand, being a big fan of a band most around me have never heard of has its elitist charms, but on the other, it can be pretty lonely, if you know what I mean. Maybe it's related to geography: one can't get much further away from Canada than Texas and still be in the U.S., now can one?

2. Is it just me, or should 3 Doors Down be opening for OLP instead of the other way around? On the 19th, they'll be playing here, and I'm pumped, but am discouraged by the implications: OLP shouldn't play second fiddle to anyone, especially 3 Doors Down, whose songs I did hear on the Top 40 stations during my travels...again and again and again, actually.

3. Something about "If You Believe" (which I've always loved, hence me taking the time to ask this) that's always bugged me: Raine refers to "The world I called." What does that mean? It doesn't even make sense. How do you call a world? On that note, has someone created a website dedicated to attempting to discern the meaning of his lyrics? An OLP interpretation site?

Again...it's nice to be here.
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Welcome! Keep in mind in Canada OLP gets ALOT of play compared to texas, as for lyric interps, just start a thread, or try the other olp message board "Clumsy Congress" it's really hard to use though, and is full of less likable and intelligent people. But welcome to the CM and enjoy, and don't be put off by the odd person that will giveyou a hard time cause your a Newbie
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Clumsyboy wrote:is full of less likable and intelligent people.



subtle, sean, subtle ;)


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"How can we justify spending so much on destruction and so little on life?" Matthew Good

"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

"Pray for the sheep" Matt Good
"But it's alright, take the world and make it yours again" Matt Good

I felt it in the wind, and i saw it in the sky, i thought it was the end, i thought it was the 4th of July.

"Hold on, hold on children, your mother and father are leaving, hold on, hold on children your best freind's parents are leaving, leaving,.......*AHHH*! " - Death From Above - Black History Month
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Utah is pretty far from Canada too, and I feel like one of the maybe five people here who like them. There have to be more though, since they have concerts once in a while :lol: I hear Superman's Dead and Starseed once every month or so. It's ok though.
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Welcome Newbie :evil:
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Welcome!

InRepair79 wrote:1. To anyone worried that OLP is reverting to Top 40 fare: here in the South, they sure aren't. I recently drove from San Antonio, TX to Pensecola, FL, listening to the radio all the way, and never once heard an OLP song on any station, rock or Top 40. San Antonio's rock station, 99.5 KISS, plays "Superman's Dead" once in a blue moon, but that's it. On one hand, being a big fan of a band most around me have never heard of has its elitist charms, but on the other, it can be pretty lonely, if you know what I mean. Maybe it's related to geography: one can't get much further away from Canada than Texas and still be in the U.S., now can one?


As others have mentioned, OLP gets a LOT of airplay in Canada.

InRepair79 wrote:2. Is it just me, or should 3 Doors Down be opening for OLP instead of the other way around? On the 19th, they'll be playing here, and I'm pumped, but am discouraged by the implications: OLP shouldn't play second fiddle to anyone, especially 3 Doors Down, whose songs I did hear on the Top 40 stations during my travels...again and again and again, actually.


Haha, yeah. That's pretty much the concensus around here. However, 3DD is a bigger band in the states, so it does kind of make sense to have a bigger band headline a tour in the states.

InRepair79 wrote:3. Something about "If You Believe" (which I've always loved, hence me taking the time to ask this) that's always bugged me: Raine refers to "The world I called." What does that mean? It doesn't even make sense. How do you call a world? On that note, has someone created a website dedicated to attempting to discern the meaning of his lyrics? An OLP interpretation site?


As you may or may not know, the album was based around Ray Kurzweil's book The Age of Spiritual Machines (an amazing read if you ever pick it up). This line, I believe, is refering to the future (which is discussed in detail in AOSM). The future is the world he's "calling". As for "calling"... He's both calling it as in calling it to come. Kind of like "Okay, future! We're ready for you!". It could also mean the world he's naming or describing. In either case, I think it means the future.
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Axtech wrote:As you may or may not know, the album was based around Ray Kurzweil's book The Age of Spiritual Machines (an amazing read if you ever pick it up). This line, I believe, is refering to the future (which is discussed in detail in AOSM). The future is the world he's "calling". As for "calling"... He's both calling it as in calling it to come. Kind of like "Okay, future! We're ready for you!". It could also mean the world he's naming or describing. In either case, I think it means the future.


Good point (regarding “If You Believe”). I’d never thought of it in that way.

And yes, I’m familiar with Kurzweil’s book and the way in which it influenced what I believe to be OLP’s best album to date. As for reading it, I’ve tried, but, frankly, find Kurzweil’s vision of a not-so-wonderful-future prohibitively depressing subject matter (the human race’s coming obsolescence isn’t exactly beach reading, if you know what I mean).

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Three Doors Down should open for Our Lady Peace and not the other way around. My boyfriend and I went and saw the concert they had here and after OLP 3DD is such a let down, we didn't even stay to the very end. I was sitting there thinking "oh how spectacular of them to have released two whole CDs when the opening band has had five or six (depending on whether you consider the live CD a new one)".

My boyfriend, Mike, once 3DD took the stage: "Well that was anticlimatic."
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InRepair79 wrote:Oh, the irony of using a computer to express these fears.


That's the trouble with the possibility of becoming a modern-day Luddite. We're surrounded by technology all the time, so it's kind of hard to boycott it (not to mention the fact that it's hard to find any looms to symbolically smash).
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See, 3 Doors Down gets oodles of airplay in America, because they're one of those bands that capitalized on 9/11 and started writing patriotic songs. By all means, 3DD is a very very bad band, to say the least. They just happened to capitalize off of bad occurances, and well, there they are, still being a band, even though I pray they would go away.
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I don't necessarily think that 3DD are a bad band, I just think that their music could be better...they have potential

I dont think they should be headlining a tour yet. It has nothing to do with OLP I just think that they should tour with someother bands. I always hate that. When bands that havent paid their dues and they instantly blow up. It seems like a slap in your face.
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OLP's been paying dues for 10 years now, I think they're due for a real tour now. I mean, come on, Avril Lavigne sells out places like The Palace of Auburn Hills (holds at least 25,000) and at this time last year she had demos out for a country album. OLP deserves a major tour, but if they keep playing clubs, I wouldn't cry.
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Axtech wrote:
InRepair79 wrote:3. Something about "If You Believe" (which I've always loved, hence me taking the time to ask this) that's always bugged me: Raine refers to "The world I called." What does that mean? It doesn't even make sense. How do you call a world? On that note, has someone created a website dedicated to attempting to discern the meaning of his lyrics? An OLP interpretation site?


As you may or may not know, the album was based around Ray Kurzweil's book The Age of Spiritual Machines (an amazing read if you ever pick it up). This line, I believe, is refering to the future (which is discussed in detail in AOSM). The future is the world he's "calling". As for "calling"... He's both calling it as in calling it to come. Kind of like "Okay, future! We're ready for you!". It could also mean the world he's naming or describing. In either case, I think it means the future.


Personally, I've always thought of It as him 'calling' the future, but the future as in a bright future, or a better place. Sorta like he wants to make the world a better place and the person would 'be strong' if they beleive it could or would happen... Anyway, thats just my interpretation. I haven't read the book yet.
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I saw 3DD two years ago on their first tour and they actually weren't THAT bad. But...eh, there's no way in HELL they are better musicians that OLP.
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Its cause OLP has, whats known as, EXPERIENCE.



that can dafinately be taken the wrong way.
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I saw 3DD at Craven this past July. They put on a good show but they're not in the same calibur as OLP.
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InRepair79 wrote:1. To anyone worried that OLP is reverting to Top 40 fare: here in the South, they sure aren't. I recently drove from San Antonio, TX to Pensecola, FL, listening to the radio all the way, and never once heard an OLP song on any station, rock or Top 40. San Antonio's rock station, 99.5 KISS, plays "Superman's Dead" once in a blue moon, but that's it. On one hand, being a big fan of a band most around me have never heard of has its elitist charms, but on the other, it can be pretty lonely, if you know what I mean. Maybe it's related to geography: one can't get much further away from Canada than Texas and still be in the U.S., now can one?


see, i'm not alone, i'm south of you about 2 hours, and there is absolutely no OLP air play.
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