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StarseedFC wrote:you know what scares me? god beleivers say god created everything and scientists are satinists trying to prove him wrong, but i cant help but wonder, what made god, how was god created? he couldnt of created himself, so was he created by science? but if he was wouldnt that make god a satinist as in against himself? but then again in a way arent we all controversail with how we feel about ourselves? but if we're all like god then that would mean god's human, which means go must be dead,b ut dont all god beleivers say its evilt o think he is dead?..im confusing myself...
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There's a whole lot of theological philosophy on this subject. I'm pretty sure the most prominent philosophers to address it are Rene Descartes and Thomas Aquinas. The gist of what I've read is that God is eternal because of his essence - he exists because he exists, or causa sui. I haven't read any of the actual rationalizations on that specific topic, but I know that they're out there, and some of the rational theo-philosophical arguements I've read - especially by Descartes - are quite solid. If anything, they make you think. Go grab Descartes Meditations if you're interested.

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Thomas Aquinas is a very tough read. Honestly, I had to read parts of Summa Theologica and it just hurt my head. It was literally painful.
I faced death. I went in with my arms swinging. But I heard my own breath and had to face that I'm still living. I'm still flesh. I hold on to awful feelings. I'm not dead... My chest still draws breath. I hold it. I'm buoyant. There's no end.
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