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Postby One-Eye » 5/26/2003, 4:43 am

I admit that I live a pretty sheltered life. I grew up in a pretty liberal, though religious family. I go to a very liberal school on the west-coast, which is almost entirely leftist. I see real hatred only in the abstract: in the news, on TV, in history books. I've never truly been discriminated against because I am a woman, or because I'm an atheist - I do occasionally get ignorant remarks, but these usually lead to respectful and intelligent discussions, not to outright hate. I've never seen my black friends be called "n***er" or be discriminated against based on race. I've never seen my gay uncles or friends called "f***ot" or be banned from anyplace because of their orientation. I know such things go on, but as I said, I've never witnessed it first-hand.

But today, I came across some very disgusting material on the internet, in the form of some guy's LiveJournal. I know that this one instance of hate shouldn't have had such a profound effect on me, but it did. I'm pretty active in the LJ community, and I discovered this guy in a reply he made to a post in an atheist community. He made a lot of disgusting remarks about atheists and gays - a lot of blanket statements and a lot of hate speech. I was silly enough to let his remarks piss me off to the point where I made an equally nasty reply. Then, wondering what this person was really like, I checked out his personal journal.

Bad idea. His profile consisted of this quote:

"If it is "racist" to prefer the company of people of one's race, to prefer the culture created by one's race, and to want one's race to survive and flourish, then virtually everyone of every color is "racist," and the term has no useful meaning."

When I looked at his actual journal, it got worse. Nearly every post was bigoted. He hates feminists and says that a woman's place is "in the kitchen" and that his rights are stomped on by women getting too much power and respect in the workplace and other areas of life. But he has no problem posting disgusting pornographic pictures of women. Apparently, we only exist to clean his house and let him fuck us; if we make any claim to being an actual person, it stomps on his "rights".

He then moved on to discuss blacks and Asians, which he called many disgusting names and said things like, "sure, I know a couple of good black people, but 95% of them are *insert derogatory language here* and we would all benefit if the entire race were wiped out."

He moves on to gays, in which he describes being "hit on" by a "f***ot", and how he told this person off in no uncertain terms, stating his heterosexuality and the evils, horrors, and inherent "wrongness" of homosexuality. However, he had no qualms about jacking off to pornographic pictures he posted of two women kissing.

I shouldn't have been surprised by this sort of thing, but it really did affect me. I realized that in this person's eyes, I was nothing but a dishwasher and walking vagina - although probably not even that, as I don't match his seeming ideal of blonde, shaved, pierced, anorexic women. I realized that he wants to "wipe out" me and every other atheist (and non-Christian, and non-white) in the world, just for not being like him. And he's not the only one like this. It made me physically sick and very depressed.

So all you people voting conservative - I just hope you know who you're sharing a party with. When you deny homosexuals the right to marry, when you try to put religion into the public arena, when you try to get rid of affirmative action, when you deny women the right to choose what to do with their bodies, you are moving your country step by step closer to this man's hate-filled "utopia". I just hope you realize that next time you vote conservative. Behind the rhetoric and the "moral rectitude" of conservative politics is pure hatred and intolerance - the desire to make everyone have your morals, have your beliefs, look and act and feel like you, and if they can't or they refuse, to obliterate them.

I don't think I can go back to the way I looked at the world before. I am really, really scared for America and for the world. :(
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Postby I AM ME » 5/26/2003, 11:51 am

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"The white dove is gone, the one world has come down hard, so why not share the pain of our problems, when all around are wrong ways, when all around is hurt, i'll roll up in an odd shape and wait, untill the tide has turned.....with anger, i'm dead weight, i'm anchored"- IME, God Rocket (Into the Heart of Las Vegas) ^ Some say this song is about a terrorists thoughts before 911

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Postby One-Eye » 5/26/2003, 12:05 pm

Okay, let me just say this.

I should not have compared all conservatives to this disgusting example of humanity. After all, there plenty of wacked liberals out there that I would be pretty disgusted at sharing a party with, too. I hope you will accept my apology.

I still worry about the philosophy behind conservatism, though. It is fundamentally based on "morals", or more specifically, Christian "morals", and it wishes to run the country based on these rules.

Not that there's anything wrong with Christianity, or the ten commandments, or anything like that. But as a nonchristian, it worries me deeply every time the barrier between church and state is broken. Every "under God" in the pledge of allegiance, every ten commandments in a courthouse, every prayer over a loudspeaker in a public school, is the government supporting one religion over every other. Sure, there are plenty of right-wingers for whom this is innocuous, there are plenty of right-wingers who wouldn't mind such things being taken away. But there are plenty of others who want to make this a "Christian country". To them, people like me, who commit no crimes, who have valid moral codes and strive to act on them, are evil, just because we're atheists. To them, being gay is a "sin". To them, women's place is to serve men.

Those are the people that worry me, that make me cringe whenever conservatives get another vote. It's easy to be a republican when you're a white Christian male. Their marginalization of people unlike you doesn't affect you. But as a woman, as an atheist, as a supporter of homosexual rights and as a human being, let me just tell you, I worry.
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