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31 Reasons you vote

Postby mosaik » 3/20/2003, 10:44 am

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Don’t blame me, I didn’t vote. ~ Jeremy Sapienza

My barber believes passionately that everyone should vote, and since one of my primary objectives is to persuade people to abstain from politics, I often raise the subject with her during election season. Although our conversations remain cordial, usually they are short and intense (at least her part). Last week she asked me, “Why would you not vote? I think that’s the most dishonorable and un-American thing you could do.” But it seems to me that it is the voter who must justify his actions, since voting is an affirmative act. Since most voters have never really considered why they vote, I have decided to assist them by providing a list of reasons to vote:

1. 1. You believe that a majority of voters has the right to impose their will on everyone else through the use of force.

2. You want to steal from other people and/or force them to do certain things, but you’d rather have someone else point the gun for you.

3. You believe that the State is legitimate, and want to provide legitimacy to it for the next two to six years.

4. You believe that democracy is a legitimate decision-making process, and don’t mind being bound by the results.

5. You believe that voting will protect you from government or slow the growth of the State.

6. You want to live in a political society instead of a civil society.

7. You prefer to wield political power because you’re too lazy to work for social power.

8. You want the politicians to have a mandate and to be able to say, “The people have spoken!”

9. You don’t mind if the government helps you decide by narrowing your choices for you.

10. You’re a follower who needs to be led, and believe that everyone else needs “leaders” who are selected by a majority of the voters.

11. You believe that millions of people gave their lives to defend your right to vote.

12. You want to honor the victims of 9/11, who were killed because some foreigners didn’t like the fact that we live in a democracy.

13. You believe that voting is the way to make your voice heard, and that politicians hear your voice when you vote.

14. You believe that if your candidate wins, you will get what you want, just like you want it.

15. You like the way that politicians have been running things, and want to send them back for more.

16. You believe that politicians will keep their campaign promises.

17. You don’t believe that power will corrupt politicians once they’re in office.

18. You trust the politicians you vote for, and believe they care about you.

19. Your government school taught you that voting is a privilege.

20. You like to exercise your freedom—to choose your master.

21. You believe that your vote will affect the outcome of an election.

22. You believe that voting fraud won’t affect the outcome of an election.

23. You believe that the new touch-screen voting machines are reliable, tamper-proof, and leave an adequate paper trail in case the results are contested.

24. You’re proud to wear the “I voted” sticker that they give you after you vote.

25. George W. Bush said that it’s your duty to vote.

26. The president's wife or mother called you and asked you to vote.

27. You get a rush out of wielding political power.

28. You think that a politician is cute, or you like the way he kisses his wife, or you like the earth tones he wears, etc.

29. You saw a campaign sign that made you feel patriotic because of its flag motif, or that made you feel good because it had a catchy slogan on it, such as "the courage to lead" or "neighborhoods first."

30. The political ads on TV and radio that cater to the lowest common denominator don't insult your intelligence.

31. You don’t mind your name and other personal information being on a government list, which will come in handy if the government wants to summon you for jury duty, draft you into the military, audit your income tax returns, collect information about you, or send you to an internment camp.
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Re: 31 Reasons you vote

Postby Bandalero » 3/20/2003, 1:39 pm

Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.


Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
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Postby mosaik » 3/20/2003, 2:28 pm

Rob moody wrote that. he's an america, former soldier, and has been studying politiks for a few years now.... like the better part of the last decade.

he knows how your system of government works. trust me. a lot of your rebutals were picking nits or changing words to ones you liked better. that is not a critical column, it's simply a list of the 31 reasons that people vote.
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Postby Narbus » 3/20/2003, 4:23 pm

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Postby Bandalero » 3/20/2003, 6:02 pm

Whenever death may surprise us,
let it be welcome
if our battle cry has reached even one receptive ear
and another hand reaches out to take up our arms.


Nobody's gonna miss me, no tears will fall, no ones gonna weap, when i hit that road.
my boots are broken my brain is sore, fer keepin' up with thier little world, i got a heavy load.
gonna leave 'em all just like before, i'm big city bound, your always 17 in your hometown
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Postby Narbus » 3/20/2003, 11:17 pm

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Postby Narbus » 3/23/2003, 10:54 pm

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Postby mosaik » 3/25/2003, 11:07 pm

i believe that i can be wrong about things. i could be wrong about the colour of your hair, whether or not your car is a honda or a toyota. i could be wrong about what kind of computer is best or the weather tomorrow.

what i'm not wrong about is what rational thought is. i don't try to think in a rational state, i just do. it's just who i am. i also believe, as is my inalienable human right, that rational thinking is right thinking. i will consider your opinion on which car is fastest, or which basketball team is best. i could be wrong about either of those topics. but i will never believe that irrational thought is right thought, because i believe that man is by nature rational.

therefore, to think irrationally would be to act outside of human nature. that's why i won't consider an irrational opinion.

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Postby Narbus » 3/25/2003, 11:45 pm

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Postby mosaik » 3/26/2003, 10:55 am

you're going to have to prove that.....
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Postby Narbus » 3/26/2003, 4:58 pm

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Postby mosaik » 3/26/2003, 5:33 pm

let me start by saying i'd like to see the results of these experiments. i know you're coming across as real credible right now, but i'd actually like to see the study before i believe it.

Milgram was studying the level of obedience in men, not attempting to determine if they were capable of rational thought or not. and none of your studies disprove that assertion, by the way.

All men have the capacity for rational thought. Some choose not to use it. You shut if off everytime you make your way to the ballot box and everytime you shove a dollar into the tax man's pocket. However as you do this, you must in some capacity recognize that there is a rational alternative to the action you are taking. You just choose to ignore it.

Proof:

Perrin and Spencer (1980, 1981) suggested that the Asch effect was a "child of its time". They carried out an exact replication of the original Asch experiment using engineering, mathematics and chemistry students as subjects. The results were clear cut: on only one out of 396 trials did an observer join the erroneous majority.

Chemistry, mathematics and Engineering are all studies with emphasis on rational thought. These people are rational thinkers with strong self-confidence - they don't follow the majority, they listen to their own consience. Observe the results of the Asch experiment when it was attempted on superior minds.

Humanity may not act rational all the time, but all men have that capacity. It's what sets us aside and apart from the lesser beasts.
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