Bush's latest address (Mar 17, 8:00pm EST)

Johnny · Post by **Johnny** » 3/18/2003, 11:24 am

So....Wensday is the deadline. Correct? Im gonna have to watch MSNBC rather intently now

mosaik · Post by **mosaik** » 3/18/2003, 11:39 am

Reno, your government lies. I've proven it on this board. You can't trust them. They lie. Why do you think that they don't? Why why why?

Saddam nationalized the oil industry reno. He is responsible for the countries improved economy, not the other way around.

you're damn right iraqi's don't need him, but amerikans don't need bush. let the iraq revolutionaires handle their own affairs. killing kids is not going to change anything in iraq and if saddam lives through this it's only going to make his hold the stronger.

Capo · Post by **Capo** » 3/18/2003, 11:44 am

Doug Bin Laden wrote:
but amerikans don't need bush. let the iraq revolutionaires handle their own affairs. killing kids is not going to change anything in iraq and if saddam lives through this it's only going to make his hold the stronger.

Yeah, we shoudl just let everybody handle there own problems, Iraq seemed to be doing so fine on its own.

mosaik · Post by **mosaik** » 3/18/2003, 11:45 am

bingo capo.

now you're defending freedom.

Capo · Post by **Capo** » 3/18/2003, 11:47 am

So freedom is the right to kill your own people if you wish untill one day they rebel against you?

I didnt see any signs of mutiny against saddam, I have herd rumors of groups going against him in Iraq, but I havent seen them try to stop him. Why do you think the US government is always wrong?

mosaik · Post by **mosaik** » 3/18/2003, 11:49 am

because they are always wrong.

government is wrong.

Bandalero · Post by **Bandalero** » 3/18/2003, 11:50 am

it's called helping people out doug. they need help to overthrow this guy because it has been proven that they cannot do it alone.

Capo · Post by **Capo** » 3/18/2003, 11:54 am

ok new subject, anyone like iceskating?

mosaik · Post by **mosaik** » 3/18/2003, 11:58 am

uhm, reno, i hate to tell you this but your bombs can't tell if the iraqi they just killed was pro or anti saddam.

if you want to help the revolution, fine. meet with some of the leaders and give them some money. why doesn't your government pursue that option? because they don't WANT a free iraq. They want a UNITED STATES iraq.

Capo · Post by **Capo** » 3/18/2003, 12:01 pm

So doug, you think after we have defeated saddam in war that we will plant there and make our own government and control that country?

Well, if we do, we deserve it.

And if we dont, then oh well, we will probably pack our bags and leave.

mosaik · Post by **mosaik** » 3/18/2003, 12:02 pm

you deserve it? how? what have you done to deserve it? YOU ARE INVADING THEM. LIKE HITLER. You remember Hitler, right?

There is NO DIFFERENCE between Hitler's occupation of france and americas occupation of iraq. none.

Capo · Post by **Capo** » 3/18/2003, 12:04 pm

Doug Bin Laden wrote:you deserve it? how? what have you done to deserve it? YOU ARE INVADING THEM. LIKE HITLER. You remember Hitler, right?

There is NO DIFFERENCE between Hitler's occupation of france and americas occupation of iraq. none.

Its just like standard war. We invade, we conquer, we take what we get.
Who knows if that is what we do, but if we win, we did just defeate an entire army.

mosaik · Post by **mosaik** » 3/18/2003, 12:09 pm

and that makes it all right? you have the most guns, so what you say goes and freedom be damned, right?

Capo · Post by **Capo** » 3/18/2003, 12:09 pm

Doug Bin Laden wrote:you deserve it? how? what have you done to deserve it? YOU ARE INVADING THEM. LIKE HITLER. You remember Hitler, right?

There is NO DIFFERENCE between Hitler's occupation of france and americas occupation of iraq. none.

Sorry, but we arent throwing colored people or people with different religions into concentration camps like hitler did, so there is a HUGE difference in that, not to mention hitler just wanted control of the world, I doubt that is what Bush wants. Probably just control of those oil derricks which we need.

Capo · Post by **Capo** » 3/18/2003, 12:11 pm

Doug Bin Laden wrote:and that makes it all right? you have the most guns, so what you say goes and freedom be damned, right?

yeah, we can make a difference, so we should.

If we didnt, then people like you would be bitching at us still, saying we should go and attack and try to stop what is happening. There is just no winning in this situation.

Tell me exactly what you want, shoudl saddam just be able to have his weapons and the rest of the world just sit there while we wait to see what he does with them, what if he launched them at you, then it would be too late, we coudl go to war, but people would have died already.

Capo · Post by **Capo** » 3/18/2003, 12:13 pm

And freedom, well who is to say that saddam gave his people freedom? He didnt. He murdered them brutally and ruled in fear, I didnt see anyone in his country try to stop him. Anyone can buy a gun these days and kill another, its not hard.

mosaik · Post by **mosaik** » 3/18/2003, 12:16 pm

concentration camps like the one in gitmo?

people like me would not be bitching if you stayed out of iraq. you don't know anything about what people like me believe.

your logic is amazing. "we must go kill to stop killing". nice doubletalk.

for the last time, yes, i believe saddam should be left alone.

Capo · Post by **Capo** » 3/18/2003, 12:18 pm

So your logic is leave saddam alone and hope he doesnt go button happy, amazing how you want to stop death, yet you take chances like this.

mosaik · Post by **mosaik** » 3/18/2003, 12:24 pm

well i know this for a fact: the war you want will cause death. leaving saddam alone, or pursuing disarming him COULD cause death.

it's a WILL versue COULD situation.

Capo · Post by **Capo** » 3/18/2003, 12:26 pm

Welp, then its a chance of weighing out the death toll.

Either many people die by war.

Or(what might happen) many many many more people die by chemical weapons and nuclear warheads.