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I think a thread for writing philosophy and discussing philosophical issues would be cool, so here it is. I'm going to make a short and slightly pointless rant now and you peeps can either comment on it (please discuss, not flame ) or post your own different thoughts or propose debates, whatever.

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The way I see it, human society is essentially an enormous, long perpetuated sort of game - especially where money is concerned - that has evolved around the best ways we've found to exist together. Unfortunately, people do not think this way and see society as life, life as society; society becomes a cage, opressive.

Now, my point of view is that this cage is ethereal, it has no hold on you that you don't give it. You can, if so incline, "unplug" from this game and live outside of it, without it. Only, doing so means you have to fend for yourself as an animal of sorts, not something most people see as a viable sort of life.

My point is (putting aside issues of determinism) people possess more freedom than society makes them think they do. This may seem obvious to some, or absurd to others, but when I thought about it a great fog lifted from my mind, simple as it was.

Hm. Not as great a rant as it was in my head. Lets see some better ones!

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*yawn* reading your thread made me tired bro........

I would, but it's too early to think. Maybe another time.

clumsy_congressman wrote:*yawn* reading your thread made me tired bro........

haha, probably a good thing.

if you'd actually understood his rant, you'd have realized that politics are just a stupid game. Admittedly, a game you may decide you have to play (so why not play it well?), but nonetheless, it's pointless and not only that, there's NEVER a winner.

i like this post.

i would agree that people possess more freedom then they think, and that society/figures in society put there by the state do not have the power to grant that freedom, only to attempt to take it away.

man is a free being by nature. all the supposed freedoms granted to him (ie speech, religion, association) by the soldier are his by nature and right. those freedoms are not for any governing body or society to give. conservative/war advocates love to say "the soldier defends your freedom" and i say to them "defends it from whom?" the answer is: the soldier.

i'm getting off topic. the point i'm trying to make is, men are free. i agree that figures in our society go to great lengths to prevent us from realizing this, and i also agree that you can unplug yourself (if that was a Matrix reference, nice!) from the illusion and recognize the object fact of your nature - that you are meant to be free.

now it's only a matter of removing the obstacles.

i appreciate you not turing that into a Anarchist rant like i wrongly suspected, good to see you broadening your conversation subjects.......slightly

speaking of anarchy...some shithole punk freshman drew anarchist a's all over one of the pianos in a practice room the other day. i know if i were a closed minded individual thats exactly what would crack my shell. idiots.


if you're thinking right now "what is this crackwhore talking about? this is completely irrelevant"

sentence fragment

i have a philosophy. and i wrote it down in a little book somewheres. i'll find that little book and transcribe it for the world someday.

my guess is that would be the single most dumbfounding pice of literature in existance...or just dumb

meh

i only know one philosophy. so it's the only one i can discuss in detail. i'm going to be studying philosophy in university though.

then, look out you commie bastards.

that was a joke btw.

actually we prefer to go by the term Hippy, or maybe Self Rightous Socialist Bastards We've come to take your money you will like it while we're doing it

Idealist wrote:my guess is that would be the single most dumbfounding pice of literature in existance...or just dumb

lol probably the latter. it's the product of one of those two in the morning "i'm sooo tired... I HAVE AN IDEA!" moments.

philosophy is much too deep for me to spend my time on, I think that's my big problem

what's the point to life? unknown. so can we discover it? unknown. can we try? yes. finding the point becomes the point. that's philosophy.

deeeeeeeep thoughts.........by Jack Handy

I can't wait for my grade 12 philosophy course.

so many nice philosophy, sociology, and political science courses at university

crystal baller wrote:man is a free being by nature.

Nope. We are free by choice.